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Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by pedrosorio on Sunday October 10, 2021 @05:04PM (#28821967)
> When have you seen a movie about the USSR winning the WW2?

Any Russian movies about the US winning the WW2? Naturally each country tells their own narrative. This seems like a silly point to make.

Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by TeMPOraL on Sunday October 10, 2021 @06:09PM (#28822446)
Not so when you consider that Hollywood is pretty much defining the culture for good half of the planet.
Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by whatshisface on Sunday October 10, 2021 @06:21PM (#28822517)
It's not a silly point to make when you realize that Hollywood is not a government agency. It is a reasonable question to ask how this coordination is possible when there are no legal restraints on failing to coordinate.
Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by bmicraft on Sunday October 10, 2021 @06:33PM (#28822579)
Hollywood gets to borrow millions in us army equipment for free if the producer runs the script by them first. Part of the deal is that the us army always have to be the good guys and not have any internal problems related to things like sexism homophobia or anything else
Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by whatshisface on Sunday October 10, 2021 @06:34PM (#28822598)
That only explains it when the movie involves borrowed equipment.
Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by jonathankoren on Sunday October 10, 2021 @08:40PM (#28823327)
And yet, these movies continue to get made.
Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by elefanten on Sunday October 10, 2021 @07:53PM (#28823057)
Is the Russian film industry a Russian government agency?

The simplest explanation is that, especially historically, Hollywood has targeted domestic audiences first. What message do you think is/was more likely to play well in the US and broadly in the west?

Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by dan-robertson on Sunday October 10, 2021 @06:38PM (#28822618)
The theory is probably that the characters must be relatable and therefore American. Films about British actions in the war often have random American characters thrown in too. (I’m not sure that is unrealistic though)

Perhaps another thing is that when the memory of the war was still fresh and people (at least in eg France) generally knew that the USSR had a big impact, McCarthyism was also at its height and there were strong reasons not to show communists in a good light. And then maybe later films mostly copied the trend.

Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by Blikkentrekker on Sunday October 10, 2021 @07:45PM (#28823013)
In U-571 History was entirely rewritten as to suggest that it were U.S.A. soldiers, who captured the first German Enigma, whereas in actuality it were English soldiers that did so.
Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by refurb on Sunday October 10, 2021 @09:15PM (#28823560)
Anyone who watches a Hollywood movie and assumes it accurate is a fool. Movies are made to make money not educate.

It’s like the chase scene at the end of Argo. That never happened. They just got on the plane and left but if the movie was accurate that would be a horribly boring ending so they made up a better on.

Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by Blikkentrekker on Sunday October 10, 2021 @11:50PM (#28824458)
The same argument can be levied against any form of propaganda in fiction.

The change in this case was not in order to make the story more suspenseful but to simply inspire patriotism.

Re:China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual P... by MichaelZuo on Sunday October 10, 2021 @08:52PM (#28823411)
Wow if that’s really the case then that is pretty blatant.