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Re:Canada's 'gamble' on delaying, mixing and matching Covid-... by roenxi on Sunday October 10, 2021 @03:37AM (#28816531)
Your source is comparing reinfection risk. Reinfection risk is very low [0]. It can't drive a pandemic.

And, fairly critically, it is crazy to start isolating people from social life over that low reinfection risk. You've been exposed to people who are unvaccinated for all sort of dangerous diseases through your life and nobody has tried to lock them out of society for that.

EDIT I suppose I'll throw in here this isn't about whether vaccination is good or not. Anyone who hasn't made up their mind at this point isn't persuaded by evidence. This is about how to treat people who make choices that the government disagrees with. Locking them off aeroplanes isn't the way.

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8209951/

Re:Canada's 'gamble' on delaying, mixing and matching Covid-... by mthoms on Sunday October 10, 2021 @12:33PM (#28819710)
>This is about how to treat people who make choices that the government disagrees with

I hate to tell you this. Putting restrictions on non-vaccinated people is not some Government conspiracy. It's literally what the vast majority of the people of Canada want for their safety. That includes your neighbours and (possibly) your family members.

That's what the government is supposed to do.

Sure, you could make some "tyranny of the majority" argument here but in the case of anti-vaxers, you'll be hard pressed to find any sympathy from most Canadians.

It's not a government conspiracy. It's the will of the people it represents. I know that doesn't make nearly as good a narrative, but it's the hard truth.

Re:Canada's 'gamble' on delaying, mixing and matching Covid-... by klyrs on Sunday October 10, 2021 @06:56PM (#28822715)
It's not like we didn't do this with measles, mumps, polio, smallpox, rubella, tuberculosis...
Re:Canada's 'gamble' on delaying, mixing and matching Covid-... by roenxi on Monday October 11, 2021 @01:35AM (#28825050)
Something being popular is no guarantee at all that it is a good idea. The US just left Afghanistan this year, for example. Anyone claiming that 20 year debacle was a mistake going in to it was not in for a pleasant time - but they were right. The Patriot Act is much more long-lived than Bin Laden.

The worst time to do this is hastily and when people are feeling scared; these are some serious bridges being crossed. The systems being set up to deal with people who aren't scared of the coronavirus are going to be permanent and are a very decisive step in reshaping Western culture using the model trailed in China.