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Re:New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program by vmception on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:06PM (#28805657)
I don't really get that undercurrent to the decision making processes here.

Yes, NYC's specialized public schools have become heavily disproportionately filled by its Asian and Asian-American population.

The competitive forces and consolidation does a disservice to them and the rest of the admitted population as well.

When a 4.2 GPA overachieving student can't get selected to good universities or other opportunities because of all the 4.5 GPA students at the same school, that undermines the point of the system. And that system also has the side effect of exacerbating segregation?

And you want to defend it by making it about other Americans focusing specifically on disrupting Asian achievement? I understand your sentiment is and has been shared and represents a collective assumption with some groups in NYC, but its a huge stretch! The other perspective is that it just doesn't accomplish externalities well. Mix the schools up, let cultural overachievers be dispersed instead of consolidated, the mindshare will help the overall local population better.

I agree that public schools should be about education, so focus on fixing where the education occurs. Try to get better teachers and materials to other parts of the city! Yes, if your child is trying to go through school before any of this better infrastructure is set up, I can see how defensive one would be about it, I can see why the low hanging fruit of "they dont want us/my race to win" is the goto argument, but all I can say is.. welcome to the rest of the country? Shitty public schools is the most American thing ever!

Re:New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program by 908B64B197 on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:26PM (#28805805)
> Yes, NYC's specialized public schools have become heavily disproportionately filled by its Asian and Asian-American population.

Have they? The admission criteria is based on scores. The school is disproportionately filled with over-achievers who happen to be Asian.

> When a 4.2 GPA overachieving student can't get selected to good universities or other opportunities because of all the 4.5 GPA students at the same school

How is that so?

> Mix the schools up, let cultural overachievers be dispersed instead of consolidated

How is that supposed to help anyone?

> all I can say is.. welcome to the rest of the country? Shitty public schools is the most American thing ever!

Because someone eats junk food I should have to eat it too?

Re:New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program by vmception on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:30PM (#28805830)
My supposition is that the mayor's reaction isn't because of the presence of Asian persons.

As a reflection of the American culture, the idea that the system is proposed to be dismantled because of Asian presence is also not supported.

I'm just here to argue that.

Re:New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program by btheshoe on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:16PM (#28805726)
That's not how cultural overachievers work though. Group overachievers together and they form a stronger culture of achievement. Split them up and they stop achieving.
Re:New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program by vmception on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:22PM (#28805775)
might need a patch for that. the rest of America requires a support system and some distribution of self motivated exist through any set up