Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by DantesKite on Friday October 08, 2021 @03:40PM
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That’s a pretty huge distinction. Can’t believe he misrepresented the author like that.
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Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by Vinnl on Friday October 08, 2021 @04:30PM
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If you re-read the comment with the assumption that they were not trying to (mis)represent the author, it still makes sense, so I don't think that was the intention.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by ithkuil on Saturday October 09, 2021 @06:42PM
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There is even a name for that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by Sohcahtoa82 on Friday October 08, 2021 @06:00PM
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That was not my intention. I was operating under the assumption that anybody in the comment section had read the article first, since then it would have been known that I wasn't quoting the author, I was quoting something the author quoted.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by svelle on Friday October 08, 2021 @07:34PM
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It's the correct assumption to be made for the comments section to the article you quoted from.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by njbooher on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:10PM
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Reading the comments to decide if you want to read the article is also a valid workflow. Although anyone doing that (me included) isn't entitled to complain about quotes not having enough context.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by ajb on Saturday October 09, 2021 @04:03AM
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I always look at the HN comments first to see if the article is worth reading, and probably other people do as well. HN loads quickly, doesn't have a paywall/cookie pop-up so it's just a better experience to look here first, and often the comments here are better value anyway.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by lazyasciiart on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:34PM
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It's easy to write something with an assumed context that is easily misinterpreted by readers without that context. I think it's unreasonable to interpret that as 'misrepresenting' something unless you can show that the writer knew their audience wouldn't have that context.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by qez on Friday October 08, 2021 @04:26PM
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He didn't misrepresent or disagree with the author. He added extra commentary on something the author brought up.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by ezekiel68 on Friday October 08, 2021 @04:56PM
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The lack of context reltated to what the author wrote is a sin of omission -- because anyone reading a top-level comment that begins with a quote (like this) is, to a first approximation, going to imagine the commenter is responding to the position of the author.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by eyelidlessness on Friday October 08, 2021 @05:51PM
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I think that’s a good reason to read the linked article before drawing conclusions about its contents from discussion threads. Having read the article first, I understood immediately that the comment was not misrepresenting anything from the article, and that their commentary bolsters the point made there.
And you don’t necessarily have to read the article before comments. I often don’t! But when I encounter something in comments which seems incongruous with what I’d expect or hope to find in the article, that’s a good prompt to go ahead and read it to gain context.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by heavyset_go on Friday October 08, 2021 @06:31PM
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A sin or lie by omission requires intent, and the OP stated their intent was not to misrepresent the author.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by jussij on Friday October 08, 2021 @06:23PM
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That is not how quotation marks are designed to work.
The words offered up as a quote are meant to represent the views of the person being quoted. In this instance that is clearly not the case.
This is a perfect example of how quotes can be used to misrepresented a view.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by Vinnl on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:40AM
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To be fair, they used `>` to quote the article, and then included the article's `"` to indicate that the article itself quoted someone else.
Re:Things I’ve learned in my 20 years as a software engineer
by TedDoesntTalk on Friday October 08, 2021 @04:22PM
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Vote with the down arrow. Why is it the first comment in this thread eden is complete nonsense?