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Re:Unlimited Vacation Days Is a Scam by Traster on Thursday October 07, 2021 @01:11PM (#28789260)
Well sure, you can do that, but that isn't going to change their impression of you when they're doing your annual review. And it won't be "You took too much holiday", it'll be "I don't think you're bought in to the team" or "I'm not sure you've really delivered at the same level as other team members this year". It might not be fair, but I could definitely see that happening for some managers.
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Re:Unlimited Vacation Days Is a Scam by corndoge on Thursday October 07, 2021 @01:36PM (#28789632)
Those concerns don't really apply to me because

1. My manager in particular would never do that, but even if they did:

2. I know how much I contribute relative to my team. If my manager told me I was underperforming - for any stated reason, but especially if I suspected it was for taking "too much" PTO - I'd almost certainly find a new team, because that just ain't so.

To elaborate on 2 a little bit, it's worth pointing out that you're definitely more vulnerable to shitty management tactics like that if you aren't sure of your own market value.

If your main point is that "unlimited PTO" can be a weapon in the hands of a bad manager, I concede that. But my counterpoint to "unlimited PTO is bad" is that, within the bubble world of tech, we as employees have so much power to dictate our working conditions there's very little reason to put up with any such bullshit in the first place. And most employers are aware of this right now.[0]

[0] https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/story/2021-07-...

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Re:Unlimited Vacation Days Is a Scam by Traster on Thursday October 07, 2021 @01:54PM (#28789870)
That's why I was saying it only works for high trust environments, and it's not just about you. Is your manager confident their manager and HR department really back them? Do other people in your team see you take more and trust that you're being reasonable. It all adds up to require a lot of high trust relationships where there are lot of downsides if it falls apart.
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Re:Unlimited Vacation Days Is a Scam by gnu8 on Thursday October 07, 2021 @01:18PM (#28789382)
That’s where you have to push back very rigidly. In an environment with unlimited PTO, that is a completely invalid criticism and can’t be accepted.
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