Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va...
by bluGill on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @10:23PM
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No, you only have to assume there are other proteins for the immune system to attack other than the spike. Which we already know is true, though it isn't clear if attacking them works, we know there is more than the spike protein in the virus.
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Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va...
by torstenvl on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @10:37PM
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False. That logic does not hold unless you also assume that the presence of protein B means no antibodies to protein A will be developed. There is zero evidence of such a phenomenon. Indeed, that's why many high-specificity antibody tests require an immunoassay — the infection causes antibodies to each of the envelope proteins. If antibody development were an either-or proposition as is required by your argument, immunoassays would not — could not — work.
Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va...
by SideburnsOfDoom on Thursday October 07, 2021 @12:54PM
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> the infection causes antibodies to each of the envelope proteins.
That's interesting, I was not aware of that there was always antibodies to all envelope proteins. Do you have links to more information on the topic?
How does this work when some of the envelope proteins are common, ones that occur in other non-viral sources?
Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va...
by torstenvl on Thursday October 07, 2021 @03:05PM
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There aren't always antibodies to all envelope proteins. That's too strong of a claim. Sometimes antibodies to early stage precursors fade before antibodies to others are developed.
I'd recommend reading about the HIV virion as an example with multiple proteins and needing multiple detected antibodies for a positive diagnosis. It's a good virus to read about due to the immense amount of research put into it.
Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va...
by SideburnsOfDoom on Friday October 08, 2021 @07:52AM
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Doesn't that contradict your statement above - "There is zero evidence of such a phenomenon" ?