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Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va... by throwawaysea on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @10:11PM (#28780999)
I’ve read something different, which is that natural immunity likely comes with recognition of multiple markers, not just the spike protein, and therefore gives you the ability to respond to a wider range of variants. Now I’m not sure what to believe. But in the absence of definitive and absolute evidence, I lean in favor of individual freedoms and civil liberties rather than mandates.
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Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va... by mc32 on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @10:15PM (#28781023)
The Science article's[1] subheading quotes: "Israelis who had an infection were more protected against the Delta coronavirus variant than those who had an already highly effective COVID-19 vaccine"

[1]https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-on...

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Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va... by lamassu on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @10:36PM (#28781165)
https://ncrc.jhsph.edu/research/comparing-sars-cov-2-natural...

"In addition, individuals who were previously infected who received one dose of the Pfizer vaccine were even more protected from breakthrough infection than the naturally infected group. There were no deaths in any of the groups examined. Given that previously infected individuals may have had multiple infections prior to the study period, the overall applicability of the study to all populations needs more clarification. Lastly, these findings should not be taken as an endorsement that getting infected is a better overall option for protection than the highly effective vaccines that are available as only those who survived initial infection were eligible for analysis."

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Re:Medical Ethicist at UC Irvine on leave for challenging va... by mc32 on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @10:43PM (#28781218)
Isn't that apples and oranges comparisons? They're not talking effective rates only relative rates. They could also claim having mRNA + adenovirus vaccines improve efficacy (not sure if there is such a study) but that does not say anything about mRNA vs adenovirus by themselves.
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