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Re:Decomplication: How to Find Simple Solutions to “Hard” Pr... by munificent on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @11:57AM (#28774678)
Today I learned that being a human with actual psychology and living in the modern world is "artificial complexity" and that if I would just stop that all of my problems would have simple (but no easier) solutions.

Every normal human understands that "how do I lose weight?" has an implied "while being a normal human with impulses, desires, limited time and willpower, who also has many other goals they are trying to simultaneously satisfy". That problem is fundamentally complex and literally shaming people ("then you have no one to blame for failure but yourself") for being a human in society is counterproductive and harmful.

Practically every overweight or underfinanced person in the world already has a rich fount of shame for those attributes because society keeps telling them it's their fault and that shame is a source of complexity when it comes to solving the problem.

Re:Decomplication: How to Find Simple Solutions to “Hard” Pr... by wilburTheDog on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @03:15PM (#28777068)
It sounds you're saying the article was oversimplifying complex problems because in the real world it's not so easy to just eat less/better and move more to loose weight. I think you may be missing the distinction he was making between simple and easy. I think fundamentally the problem of loosing weight is not particularly complex[1]. But for many people it is quite hard to do. We may have psychological issues with choosing the right foods, we may have other things we want or need to do instead of exercising, there could be many things that make it hard to do the things we need to to be healthy. And because it's hard for us we are vulnerable to someone selling us an 'easy' solution.

Of course, solving our psychological issues, or finding the time or willpower to exercise, or making the money to buy healthy food or the time to cook it are all different problems. And those problems can be quite complex.

1. This recent HN discussion goes into it in more detail. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28597975

Re:Decomplication: How to Find Simple Solutions to “Hard” Pr... by munificent on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:31PM (#28778054)
I understand the distinction between simple and easy. Digging a pool in your back yard is simple. It's not easy. (The author is incorrect about running marathons. Running a marathon is complex.)

> I think fundamentally the problem of loosing weight is not particularly complex.

My point is that any definition of "fundamental" in this sentence that discards the essential humanity and cultural context of the person losing weight ends up with a "problem" that is in no meaningful, actionable way based in reality.

The fact that it is a real living breathing human who has a life and a day job who is trying to lose weight is essential complexity.

Arguing otherwise is akin to saying that putting an astronaut on the moon is simple: just fire a ballistic missile at it. Oh, what, the astronaut needs oxygen, hydration, and can only handle a certain amount of acceleration before turning into a reddish paste? Well, that's just "artificial" complexity and it's their fault for having a body that is so poorly engineered.