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Re:Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party by rayiner on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @11:11AM (#28774098)
The alternative is where the party doesn’t control the nominee, like the GOP, and you get the base nominating Trump.
Re:Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party by inanutshellus on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @11:18AM (#28774191)
Notably -- and in alignment with winternett's post -- there were an unheard-of 16 nominees that year. Further, they stayed in the race, ensuring the rational voter's influence was split as many times as possible.
Re:Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party by AlexandrB on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @11:14AM (#28774145)
That seems... preferable? Say what you will about Trump, but his ineptitude and lack of party connections meant he was limited in what he could accomplish. Contrast that to the Bush presidency and its two foreign wars.
Re:Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party by khuey on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @11:17AM (#28774181)
Bush was able to "accomplish" those wars because the country was "united" after 9/11. It didn't have much to do with his personal competence or connections.
Re:Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party by Crashbat on Thursday October 07, 2021 @06:45PM (#28793087)
The US government (like all liberal, democratic governments) is a massive, many-headed bureaucracy, with competing and sometimes contradictory objectives. Those objectives are long-term, shaped by committee and subject to organisational inertia, so the departments will function regardless of the political weather. It doesn't matter what public sentiment is, nor how widespread that sentiment may be. Being able to utilise any part of it requires connections and a high level of managerial competence - in George W Bush's case that was through his own personal, familial connections, and through his cabinet, many of whom were career civil servants who'd served in previous administrations going back decades. The feeling of "unity" people may have experienced doesn't come into it.
Re:Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party by raydev on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @12:18PM (#28774906)
That certainly helped, but it was well known even then that Cheney had a lot of power, and he had many connections. GWB wasn't a complete puppet, but he wasn't fully running the show either.