It is easier to educate a Do-er than to motivate the educated

Re:It is easier to educate a Do-er than to motivate the educ... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @08:15PM (#28767504)

Many people wouldn't be at their jobs if they weren't paid to do them. Many people don't do what they do out of love for the work.

"On the whole, American workers are generally satisfied with their jobs. Even so, a significant share (30%) view the work they do as “just a job to get them by,” rather than a career or a steppingstone to a career. Views about work are sharply divided along socio-economic lines, and the sense of vulnerability is most acute among workers with no college education and lower-than-average household incomes."

"In addition to job satisfaction, the survey explored what American workers’ jobs mean to them – are their jobs central to who they are, or are they mainly just a source of income? About half (51%) of employed Americans say they get a sense of identity from their job, while the other half (47%) say their job is just what they do for a living. And about half (51%) of all U.S. workers say they view their job as a career, while 18% see it as a steppingstone to a career and 30% say it’s just a job to get them by."

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2016/10/06/3-how-a... (Pew Research: How Americans view their jobs)

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Re:It is easier to educate a Do-er than to motivate the educ... by ThrowawayR2 on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @08:30PM (#28767623)

Sure, that's true for the general population but I don't think that applies here. While software isn't quite as demanding as say law or medicine, it still takes quite a bit of effort and skill to become truly proficient in our profession. Anyone talented enough to succeed at building software is also talented enough to succeed at other well paying professions; it cannot be said that we didn't choose the profession we're currently employed in.

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Re:It is easier to educate a Do-er than to motivate the educ... by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @08:53PM (#28767764)

You don't get to choose your character traits, such as neuroticism.

Can you live with spending 70% of your life in front of a computer? You can be a dev.

Can you live with your wrong decision costing someone's life? (And all other downsides of being a doctor). I probably couldn't.

Does reading about law bore you out of your mind? If yes, maybe you can't be a lawyer no matter how talented

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Re:It is easier to educate a Do-er than to motivate the educ... by ck425 on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @06:42AM (#28771443)

Why doesn't apply here? Just because you have the intelligence and access to education to become a well paid professional doesn't mean there's a career out there that you're going to love. And as another poster also pointed out that it's not all or nothing, there's a lot of middle ground. You can have actively chose this career without 'loving' it.

Personally I find understanding how software and technology works really interesting (I enjoy understanding how 'things' work in general). I also find programming tasks reasonable engaging, if very frustrating at times. They're not my favourite type of problem solving but it's fun. So Software is a reasonably interesting profession and it comes with good money, plenty of opportunity and lot of flexibility.

That said if I had enough money to retire I'd happily leave it and stop programming. My curiosity is largely satisfied and there are other things I'd rather spend my time doing, such as acting, running or studying one of the countless other subjects that interests me. But it's hard to impossible to make a good living doing those things so I keep working as a software engineer and do those things in my spare time. And that's fine. As I say it's moderately interesting and definitely better than most of the alternatives. And I do take pride and interest in my work. But I don't love it and while my career is up there on my priority list it's never going to be top.

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