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Re:Conterintuitive facts in mathematics, CS, and physics by version_five on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @07:11PM (#28766920)
From what I remember from intro physics, we distinguished between pounds and pounds force, the latter having the 32ft/s^2 multiplied in.

And wikipedia seems to agree with me, see pound (mass) vs pound (force).

Re:Conterintuitive facts in mathematics, CS, and physics by lotsofpulp on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @07:13PM (#28766935)
Oh wow, learning a lot today. I was taught in the US that pounds are a measure of force, and that is how it was always used in physics problems.
Re:Conterintuitive facts in mathematics, CS, and physics by tharkun__ on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @07:23PM (#28767025)
As a European I learned in metric. When I first learned pounds, it was as the imperial system's equivalent of grams and a conversion factor was given. Force in physics class was taught in Newtons (kg*m/s^2).
Re:Conterintuitive facts in mathematics, CS, and physics by kergonath on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @02:04AM (#28769715)
Pounds as a mass unit are perverse enough. Things like pound force and psi (pounds per square inch) were used only to make fun of old mechanics papers and textbooks. Also, btu. It is quite amazing actually that someone would see the SI and think “no, too simple; I’ll keep my pounds, ounces, inches, and feet”.

Anyway, yes, the proper unit of force is the Newton.

Re:Conterintuitive facts in mathematics, CS, and physics by treebog on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @07:55PM (#28767323)
In engineering school (in the US), we used pounds mass (lbm) as the unit of mass, and pounds force (lbf) as the unit of force.
Re:Conterintuitive facts in mathematics, CS, and physics by version_five on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @07:39PM (#28767173)
I think there is some weird dual usage that makes them either mass or weight depending on the context. For example, torque is in ft•lbs or N•m so the pounds there are lbs force.

Though checking wikipedia again, it actually specifies that torque is measured in as lbf•ft. I take that to mean that 1 ft•lb is the torque of 1/2 oz (1/32 of an lb) at 1 foot. I expect that's a test question almost everyone would get wrong, myself included.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound-foot_(torque)

Re:Conterintuitive facts in mathematics, CS, and physics by stan_rogers on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @02:23AM (#28769840)
Think like an ordinary person. You know, an ordinary person who would say that they weigh about 80 kilograms. Only science nerds would say that they mass about 80 kilograms, or that they weigh about 785 Newtons. Similarly, anyone who's used to living with US customary (or Imperial) units understands that a pound of force is what a pound of mass weighs and would see no reason, under any circumstances, why anyone would want to divide the gravitational acceleration out of a pound-foot to arrive at a "real" torque value. When the pound value is expressing a weight-equivalent force, that force is the force of a pound under normal gravitational acceleration at or near the surface of the Earth.