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Re:Python 3.11 by matkoniecz on Monday October 04, 2021 @02:52AM (#28743851)
Can you be more specific about your claims? What is wrong with Python?

> more complicated than any other programming language ever conceived of

is definitely untrue. Even if you take only mainstream languages then there are many more annoying to deploy, ones that are more complicated and so on.

Re:Python 3.11 by jshen on Monday October 04, 2021 @02:57AM (#28743890)
Dependency management in python is much worse than most mainstream languages.
Re:Python 3.11 by matkoniecz on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:24AM (#28744045)
Here I agree, but it is quite far away from

> more complicated than any other programming language ever conceived of

Re:Python 3.11 by gypsyharlot on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:29AM (#28744395)
It was far easier for me to grok monads in Haskell (and it took less time), than to learn how to properly deploy a Python application. Given that monads are often a complaint and testament to the "complexity" of Haskell, I think it's unfair to make the claim that Python is uncomplicated. If you use a language for some period of time, it is very likely that you will have to deal with the tooling at some point.
Re:Python 3.11 by eesmith on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:31AM (#28744404)
I think the "it's" in "it's more complicated" refers to deploying software, not the language itself nor its support packages.