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Re:Android and iOS data collection by caeril on Sunday October 03, 2021 @07:45PM (#28741565)
s/Chinese/any government representing a material amount of their revenue/

Don't be deceived; the San Bernardino case was a very intentionally public op to convince us that they will "fight" for our right to privacy, but the not-so-public track record since has demonstrated their absolute willingness to lick the boots of virtually every government whose citizens impact their top line materially.

This isn't a slag on Apple, specifically. Facebook, Google, et al will declaim "Russian Propaganda" all day long and then immediately roll over for Russian demands to censor political opposition, for instance. They all do it.

It's all a show. You have no privacy with any of Big Tech, regardless of where you live.

Re:Android and iOS data collection by stjohnswarts on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:22AM (#28744343)
I have basically zero worries of all my criticisms of all my rantings against the bloated and corrupt American government getting me sent to prison for life and potentially having my organs harvested for a party elite. So I think that's one reason it's a tad bit different.
Re:Android and iOS data collection by markenqualitaet on Monday October 04, 2021 @08:19AM (#28745713)
That's a fallacy. The argument is not about "legitimacy", but Apple's compliant with government interference.
Re:Android and iOS data collection by dwaite on Sunday October 03, 2021 @10:08PM (#28742277)
> but the not-so-public track record since has demonstrated their absolute willingness to lick the boots of virtually every government whose citizens impact their top line materially.

What sort of percentage of the entries on that unprinted list can be summarized as "they follow the law in the places where they do business?"

Re:Android and iOS data collection by kamray23 on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:33AM (#28744099)
Nearly all of them, most likely. What motivation would there to do otherwise? It's just that the vast majority of these governments, the US included, have laws mandating access to nearly everything accessible. If that data is subpoenaed and Apple can theoretically access it, it's illegal for them not to hand it over.
Re:Android and iOS data collection by JumpCrisscross on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:04PM (#28742558)
> the San Bernardino case was a very intentionally public op to convince us that they will "fight" for our right to privacy

You’ve reversed cause and effect. Apple’s surprise at the backlash to their position on San Bernardino is well documented. It directly led to the softening of their stance on privacy.

Re:Android and iOS data collection by redprince on Sunday October 03, 2021 @08:02PM (#28741644)
> but the not-so-public track record since has demonstrated their absolute willingness to lick the boots of virtually every government whose citizens impact their top line materially.

Is there any public information that supports this claim?

Re:Android and iOS data collection by smoldesu on Sunday October 03, 2021 @08:26PM (#28741772)
Re:Android and iOS data collection by redprince on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:10PM (#28753535)
They comply with the law to the extend that they can. Apple by design locked themselves out of the capability to provide people's data in many circumstances. So the fact that requests exist says very little about what was actually provided.