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Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @09:24AM (#28736994)
The simple idea of you print more money therefore each dollar, euro... has less value, therefore inflation.

Works for me

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by ItsMonkk on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:33AM (#28737965)
This is a bad take because if that dollar does not transact, you do not get inflation but you get a lowered velocity.

However a lowered velocity rises r - g. This exacerbates wealth inequality.

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by imtringued on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:16PM (#28739762)
The r > g thing is cool in theory but it has an obvious flaw. As inequality rises returns go down. Interest rates have hit rock bottom rates.

You have to explain how returns can exceed economic growth. Your returns have to be earned through coercion basically, the other party can't refuse. Overpriced stocks just result in lower yields. I can only think of real estate as something that is earning a fixed return through coercion. The other thing would be money if the fed forcibly raised interest rates but interest is already zero.

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by edzillion on Sunday October 03, 2021 @02:16PM (#28739222)
> This is a bad take because if that dollar does not transact, you do not get inflation but you get a lowered velocity.

> However a lowered velocity rises r - g. This exacerbates wealth inequality.

The cantillion effect:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Cantillon#Monetary_t...

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by salawat on Sunday October 03, 2021 @01:12PM (#28738733)
Sounds to me like the Fed has spent the last fifty years dumping velocity then.
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by imtringued on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:11PM (#28739726)
1 Apple = $1

I borrow $100 from the bank which creates $100. I buy seeds and plant trees. I sell 100 Apples to pay the loan back. Did the value of the dollar go down? No it didn't. This is how the supply of money can go up much faster than inflation.

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by kazen44 on Sunday October 03, 2021 @10:42AM (#28737555)
in the end though, a dollar, euro or whatever is just a abstract unit which represents hours of labour spend. Inflation is making the hours worked in the past worth less, and forces people to spend their money early to get maximum effectiveness out of their work.

From a labourer's perspective, inflation is making the results from work done in the past worth less, while those who have the means to take risks can negate these negative side effects.

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:11AM (#28737782)
what does the labourer's perspective have to do with anything.

if there are a 100 dollars today and tomorrow there are 200. a dollars worth is halved right? or?

Got some secret insight on supply demand, that the general public is unaware of?

I would sooo like to know :-)

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by imtringued on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:18PM (#28739773)
If the laborer is 2x as productive tomorrow then the value of your dollars is the same.
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by ItsMonkk on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:49AM (#28738077)
Cantillion effects. Who gets the money? What do they spend it on?
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by salawat on Sunday October 03, 2021 @01:19PM (#28738787)
Let's extend this.

Inject it at ground level. No banks. No taxing. Let's come up with a few scenarios.

Everyone invests it in Stocks. Everyone saves. Everyone invests in assets to start their own businesses.

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by imtringued on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:26PM (#28739823)
>Everyone invests it in Stocks. Everyone saves.

Well, this wouldn't cause any inflation at all. It's basically just dead money. Either you own a stock or you save money in your bank account because someone bought your overpriced stock.

>Everyone invests in assets to start their own businesses.

This will cause inflation over the short term if there isn't enough labor available to do all investments. Interest rates would rise to encourage people to save their money.

There is also another form of inflation. There is enough labor available but the investment fails. You borrow $100 but only repay $80 (inflation adjusted of course). There is more money without enough production to back it up.

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by ItsMonkk on Sunday October 03, 2021 @02:25PM (#28739338)
You can't invest money in stocks. Every time you transact with stocks, the person who is giving you stocks is getting your money, and so that money is not in stocks.

The only time you "invest" in stocks is during a public offering. And when a company does a buyback, that's a de-vestment. Over the last 20 years there has been more buybacks than stock issuances. The market is running dry.

Deflationary assets are exactly what r > g predict.

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:56AM (#28738138)
LOL
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:24AM (#28737879)
I would So Much Love to meet a rocket scientist some day, that could give me some true perspective.
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:24AM (#28737886)
This is fun. Somebody on the internet is wrong!!!
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @02:29PM (#28739370)
Why?
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @02:36PM (#28739445)
https://xkcd.com/386/ didn't get the reference
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:44AM (#28738038)
#MeToo
Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:52AM (#28738109)
How to get banned on this forum?

https://github.com/freeduck/hellebrevet/blob/main/skizze.jpg

Sort of a mohammed drawing

Re:How does the economy work? A new Fed paper suggests nobod... by freeduck on Sunday October 03, 2021 @12:27PM (#28738333)
In Tallinn so don't blow up my family.

Let's talk