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Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by clairity on Saturday October 02, 2021 @05:32PM (#28732274)
the (magnitude of) risk isn't certain yet, but it's unlikely zero, given our history of poorly quantifying the harmfulness of a variety of substances. a reasonable hedge is to buy organic for the dirty dozen and non-organic for other produce. eat less processed sugar regardless, whether you replace it with fruit or not.
Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by mherdeg on Saturday October 02, 2021 @05:39PM (#28732320)
Yeah the fact that it took us years to identify issues with like, BPA or trans fats -- and the constant churn on stuff like glyphosate where it feels like regulators continue to be slower than data -- have me worried. Maybe we should be buying more organic ... It's not any extra time and not overall a huge amount of extra money in the grocery budget.
Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by clairity on Saturday October 02, 2021 @06:01PM (#28732492)
yah, washing produce thoroughly also helps reduce (but doesn't eliminate) the extra chemicals. these couple precautions don't add too much mental/physical burden, imo.
Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by TedDoesntTalk on Saturday October 02, 2021 @08:29PM (#28733447)
From the article:

“In terms of washing, it should remove some residues on the skin of a product (which will often be fungicides used to prevent rotting during storage and transportation). However, many modern pesticides are what are called ‘systemic’ which means that they are absorbed into the plant and distributed throughout its tissues, reaching any fruits or flowers. As a result, pesticide residues are often contained within the body of the produce itself and therefore washing the surface won’t remove them.”

Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by clairity on Saturday October 02, 2021 @10:07PM (#28733936)
yah, that’s what i’d dimly remembered from when i looked into it last. it’s good to wash right before eating to get rid of other contaminants too, but it won’t remove all pesticides.
Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by Nicksil on Saturday October 02, 2021 @05:50PM (#28732388)
>the (magnitude of) risk isn't certain yet, but it's unlikely zero, given our history of poorly quantifying the harmfulness of a variety of substances. a reasonable hedge is to buy organic for the dirty dozen and non-organic for other produce. eat less processed sugar regardless, whether you replace it with fruit or not.

If the goal is to reduce ingestion of substances applied to crops, then what you describe is not a reasonable hedge as both "organic" and conventional crops use pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers. You're better off saving your money by buying conventional produce than spending extra money on the purchase of the same thing.

Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by marcorx on Saturday October 02, 2021 @06:58PM (#28732875)
The residue of pesticides in food is significantly lower, at least in EU. [1]

Some useful points:

- EFSA reports show that conventional agriculture exceeds the approved maximum residue levels more often and by a higher margin

- A study in Sweden reveals a significantly higher (70x) exposure in conventional food vs organic

[1] https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-...

Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by thrwn_frthr_awy on Saturday October 02, 2021 @06:03PM (#28732508)
It’s not about reducing substances–it is about substances that are healthy.
Re:Traces of 122 different pesticides in 12 most polluted fr... by Nicksil on Saturday October 02, 2021 @06:13PM (#28732582)
>It’s not about reducing substances–it is about substances that are healthy.

I agree that such substances should not post a risk to human health, but there is no argument that organic crop products are any better for humans than conventional products.