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Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by noduerme on Saturday October 02, 2021 @04:47AM (#28727109)
From the article... >>Once they realized what had happened, they cornered our boss for details, grappled with the consequences of our actions and begrudgingly arrived at the conclusion that the ends had justified the means

I totally applaud the guerrilla methods taken by employees, unbeknownst to the bosses, that are described in this essay. Sometimes you have to just cut out the committee. Getting people to ditch their ancient software so you can move on with features is virtually impossible unless you hold a gun to their head, and that is never something tasteful for the higher brass -- even the ones who demand the features in the first place. They're in the miserable position of keeping every single person satisfied and trying to improve things. That's why it's not terribly surprising that they're happy to have the engineers go rogue every once in awhile.

Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by cube00 on Saturday October 02, 2021 @04:54AM (#28727130)
If you have a flat management structure sure, but in this case they knew they were breaking the company's change management procedures because they were going to "slip the code into production without anyone catching on"

I'll wager they were strongly warned they might not be so lucky if they try a stunt like this again. If something had gone wrong they'd all be out of a job and good luck getting a favorable reference.

Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by noduerme on Saturday October 02, 2021 @04:55AM (#28727136)
So? You do realize that most people who write code can easily find other jobs, and are usually paid better for thinking outside the box, right?

>>if they try a stunt like this again

Dear Principal Skinner - I will never make management look like idiots again. Sincerely, Bart.

Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by cube00 on Saturday October 02, 2021 @05:03AM (#28727174)
Good luck finding a new job without a reference from your most recent employer. I suppose someone who is deceitful enough to "slip the code into production without anyone catching on" wouldn't have a problem "thinking outside the box" to get around that though, if we're going down this road we might as well go all in.

My new employer may even increase my pay even further once they realize I diddled them with my last employer's reference to mask a termination for willful misconduct.

I got as frustrated with IE6 as the next developer but this doesn't give anyone license to resort to "guerrilla methods"

Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by rendall on Saturday October 02, 2021 @06:18AM (#28727469)
> "Good luck finding a new job without a reference from your most recent employer."

In what country / region / province do you work? I understand it is actually unlawful for an employer to give or ask for references in the US, and perhaps even Europe.

Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by cube00 on Saturday October 02, 2021 @07:16AM (#28727685)
In my country, it's legal and widely used, so much so the government entity that is supposed to look out for the workers provides a template for employers with suggested questions you should ask which even go as far as the person's reason given for leaving, their work performance and if you would re-hire them.
Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by rendall on Saturday October 02, 2021 @08:04AM (#28727908)
That's... oppressive. If you don't want to say the country, what continent is it?
Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by cube00 on Saturday October 02, 2021 @10:21AM (#28728767)
Guess I better produce some proof before I get even more down votes... https://www.fairwork.gov.au/ArticleDocuments/766/Reference-c...
Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by kelnos on Saturday October 02, 2021 @06:41AM (#28727545)
Every job I've gotten had no reference from my most recent employer. How would that work, anyway? Most people look for a new job in secret, while they still have their old one, and giving their current employer as a reference would spill the beans.
Re:A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) by ajkjk on Saturday October 02, 2021 @11:56AM (#28729598)
I mean... who cares about the reference, these people are gonna be imminently employable anywhere. The only thing on the line for them was _this_ job, which they probably liked, but doing a good thing and risking something you like is just courage.