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Re:DeFi bug accidentally gives $90M to users by pdonis on Friday October 01, 2021 @12:19PM (#28720383)
> the whole purpose of a loan is to fund something, and to be able to fund something the amount loaned out needs to be larger than the collateral

Um, what?

If I take out a mortgage to buy a house, the loan amount is not going to be larger than the value of the collateral (the house).

If I take out a loan to buy a car, the loan amount is not going to be larger than the value of the collateral (the car).

What kind of loan are you thinking of?

Re:DeFi bug accidentally gives $90M to users by lottin on Friday October 01, 2021 @03:26PM (#28722447)
A car or a house being used as collateral are kept by the borrower at their disposal. This means the borrower can benefit from the collateral asset, e.g. by using it or living in it, while the debt still hasn't been paid off. In these cases a fully colletarelised loan can make sense. But this is not the kind of collateral that we're talking about here. We're talking about collateral that is held by the lender in a margin account, or "locked" (in defi parlance), until the debt is paid off, which is the only kind of collateral that can be used in "decentralised finance", because the other type requires a contract (not a smart contract, an actual, legal contract) and the ability to litigate.
Re:DeFi bug accidentally gives $90M to users by throwawaygh on Friday October 01, 2021 @01:07PM (#28720987)
> If I take out a loan to buy a car, the loan amount is not going to be larger than the value of the collateral (the car).

Pray tell of these new cars whose value does not plummet the moment they are driven off the lot.

Re:DeFi bug accidentally gives $90M to users by pdonis on Friday October 01, 2021 @01:21PM (#28721162)
Which is why car loan providers usually require a substantial down payment so the loan is not underwater. (And why home mortgage providers usually require a LTV well under 100 percent--and make you pay mortgage insurance even then unless the LTV is even lower.)
Re:DeFi bug accidentally gives $90M to users by throwawaygh on Sunday October 03, 2021 @06:27PM (#28741052)
What the hell are you taking about? I have never made a down payment for a car and have never paid interest on a car loan. Ever. And I’ve purchased many cars.

E: woah! .06 seconds to the first downvote to a Dow thread comment on a two day old post! I’m out.

Re:DeFi bug accidentally gives $90M to users by plorkyeran on Friday October 01, 2021 @02:25PM (#28721871)
Currently several year-old cars are selling for nearly as much as brand-new cars. Even before the current car shortage, repossessed zero-money-down cars were commonly resold at basically the same price as the first sale.
Re:DeFi bug accidentally gives $90M to users by throwawaygh on Sunday October 03, 2021 @06:38PM (#28741142)
Currently. Which is mostly notable because it is not normal.