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Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by xwdv on Friday October 01, 2021 @07:13AM (#28716917)
Hmm, I guess ISPs could just drop traffic if they can’t afford it, but maybe if you push a lot of data you could pay more to have the content actually delivered to end users.
Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by MereInterest on Friday October 01, 2021 @07:30AM (#28717077)
> maybe if you push a lot of data

That's leads to a pretty simple conclusion, because Netflix doesn't push any data. I pull data from Netflix. I have already paid my ISP to pull data from anywhere I ask. If my ISP sits down at a negotiating table with Netflix and threatens to disrupt that, they should be laughed out of the room. "Pay me, or else I'm going to break my obligations to an unrelated third party." isn't a move that should have any respect.

Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by xwdv on Friday October 01, 2021 @12:35PM (#28720568)
What if the ISP holds a powerful monopoly in some regions? Should we still be laughing?
Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by eximius on Friday October 01, 2021 @02:09PM (#28721718)
No, you grab metaphorical pitchforks.
Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by rovr138 on Friday October 01, 2021 @01:32PM (#28721296)
We should be!

But the problem is the people that could get affected by their actions until they stop.

Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by CivBase on Friday October 01, 2021 @02:41PM (#28722037)
Then Musk and Bezos should be laughing since they'll likely be getting more customers for Starlink and (eventually) Kuiper. Hopefully low earth orbit satellite internet will put an end to ISP monopolies in the US since the government wont.
Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by ineedasername on Friday October 01, 2021 @08:02AM (#28717340)
The ISP could drop or throttle the traffic, assuming that's allowable under the ToS with their customers. But then of course their customers will quit and find an ISP that doesn't throttle/drop.

Regardless, Netflix is not pushing content. The consumer is pulling it.

As a one-off, issues like the Squid-Game aren't so bad, but if it's a chronic problem for the ISP then it's because their model of consumer consumption was wrong.

Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by spyder on Friday October 01, 2021 @07:40AM (#28717167)
... and customers could just drop the ISP if they don't deliver the service they want (if there is no ISP monopoly there).
Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by Jensson on Friday October 01, 2021 @07:20AM (#28716973)
But that would raise subscription prices. Should every user really pay extra for each subscription based on the data they might use on that subscription?
Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by tgv on Friday October 01, 2021 @07:24AM (#28717010)
Akshually ... that could make a bit of sense. Instead of paying for bandwidth you rarely use to your ISP, you could pay for bandwidth you actually use to the content provider.

However, that would leave free content inaccessible, and probably create another wealth divide.

Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by Jensson on Friday October 01, 2021 @07:28AM (#28717048)
But bandwidth is really cheap and this problem doesn't exist anywhere else. Worst case the ISP can increase their rates by a couple of dollars and improve their cables.
Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by tgv on Friday October 01, 2021 @07:32AM (#28717093)
No argument from me. I just saw a tiny bit of logic behind another model of balancing the costs. The ISP would still have to upgrade the infrastructure in the end (although my model could lead to e.g. Netflix buying up ISPs).
Re:S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge f... by tomtimtall on Friday October 01, 2021 @04:00PM (#28722762)
I’d be ok with then charging a significantly lower for a “limited bandwidth” connection. But I bought an unlimited, so they have no right to complain.

Imagine if the same principles were used in other areas. You iPhone suddenly locking up after using Facebook to much because Facebook wasn’t paying Apple for access to its users.