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Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by teeray on Thursday September 30, 2021 @03:55PM (#28710569)
> cars used to break down much more often and require much more skilled maintenance.

Yeah, but “skilled maintenance “ was an easy skill. There could only be a handful of things wrong if it didn’t start: e.g. no spark, no fuel. In the case of no spark, you check the plug, see if it’s dirty, change it if so; check the distributor, maybe the points are bad; check the coil or condenser… yeah there were things to check, but you could actually fix it once you learned about it. And yes, you could do this on the side of the road—there were “tool rolls” you could have for such purposes.

Now, you get a check engine light and the code reader says, in so many words: “bring to dealer and pay up”

Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by hef19898 on Thursday September 30, 2021 @07:22PM (#28712482)
And how often does that happen with modern day cars compared to old ones? I would argue that older cars, pre electronic wizardry, are easier to repair (assuming spare parts are available) but break down more often. Older cars are also in need of more maintenance.

Modern cars need an inspection every 30k km and hardly ever break down. When they do, they are usually toast so (at least financially). Older cars are financially toast as well, if you cannot do the work yourself so.

Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by nicbou on Saturday October 02, 2021 @04:35AM (#28727057)
New cars are reliable because we got better at making cars, not because they're loaded with new points of failure. This started in the 90s at the very least.
Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by nikau on Saturday October 02, 2021 @08:09AM (#28727956)
> Now, you get a check engine light and the code reader says, in so many words: “bring to dealer and pay up”

That's funny, because my OBDII reader tells me exactly which sensor logged a fault and what the fault is such as reading too high/low. Sure you can have oddball errors where a bus wire has its insulation melted and is sending noise over the CAN bus or something, but you also had bizarre issues on old engines with weird vacuum leaks in pipes and dashpots and all the other analogue junk that electronics have replaced.

People look at old cars through rose coloured glasses and forget having to clean distributors and adjust timing and fix tuning drift with carburettors.

Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by abraae on Thursday September 30, 2021 @04:25PM (#28710914)
When I was a lad I had an illegal ancient motor scooter that didn't start. One of the dads told me:

"If it's got compression, and it's got fuel, and it's got a spark, then it's got to go".

He was right.

Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by markrages on Thursday September 30, 2021 @08:56PM (#28713225)
Just wait until you get a sheared pin on the distributor drive... Compression, fuel, spark, no go.