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Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by nobody9999 on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @01:00PM (#28696522)
>we don't have any ethical qualms with using violent police power to compel people to consume a pharmaceutical product where the manufacturers have literally no liability to the consumer for any adverse reactions,

Where, exactly, is anyone in the US "using violent police power to compel people to consume a pharmaceutical product"?

At most, folks are being required to either get vaccinated or regularly tested in order to keep working. Which is AIUI, at least under US labor law, absolutely legal.

So I ask again: where, exactly, is "using violent police power to compel people to consume a pharmaceutical product" happening?

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by __blockcipher__ on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @04:27PM (#28699463)
Well personally I'm an ancap so I consider all laws/executive orders to be implicitly (and often explicitly) backed by the police power of the state. You can say that the government requiring employees to be vaccinated isn't violent police power because they're not holding them down and injecting them, but what exactly will the state do if the employer doesn't comply? They'll send in the guys with guns to enforce.

Really it's such a small thing to be splitting hairs over though. If you prefer, just read what I wrote and mentally s/violent police power/coercion

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by tomrod on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @04:39PM (#28699608)
Repeating the question as you didn't really answer it, and as a minarchist I view ancap theories as infeasible even if interesting:

> Where, exactly, is anyone in the US "using violent police power to compel people to consume a pharmaceutical product"?

Your answer, as I read it, is "never, but they could, and that is concerning!"

I like Bill Burr's glorious response to the slippery slope argument, "Where does it stop? F#$@%#@%@ somewhere!"

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by __blockcipher__ on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @09:13PM (#28702101)
Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough. It’s being used in places like Biden’s federal mandate that will (when they announce the actual OSHA rule) slap private companies with massive fees if they have unvaccinated employees
Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by nobody9999 on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @11:15PM (#28702807)
I didn't realize that OSHA came to workplaces with firearms and shoots those who don't follow the regs.

I guess you learn something new every day. Please.

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by __blockcipher__ on Thursday September 30, 2021 @12:10PM (#28707987)
What happens if they don’t pay the fees?
Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by nobody9999 on Thursday September 30, 2021 @04:10PM (#28710746)
>What happens if they don’t pay the fees?

For many, nothing[0] happens.

[0] https://news.bloomberglaw.com/safety/employers-have-escaped-...