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Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by dotancohen on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @04:43AM (#28691557)

  > only if you accept China's definition of what is rightfully China.
And under what pretense do you or your government have more authority to declare "what is rightfully China" than the Chinese?
Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @01:17PM (#28696803)
What authority does China have to declare that Tibet is China? Taiwan? Everything inside the 9-Dashed-Line? What reason do we have to accept China's authority to declare that foreign territory is in fact part of China?

In the same way, when the bank robber says that he was just withdrawing his own money, we do not accept that the bank robber has authority to declare "what is rightfully his money".

Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by dirtyid on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @02:10PM (#28697626)
China has dejure claims over Tibet and Taiwan. So it's more like a person who legitimate has access to their bank account wants to make withdraws after not touching the account for a while. But some nosy folks are butthurt because they falsely think it's black money or there's some mythical expiration date on legal ownership, tries to paint it as such, goes out of the way to prevent it, even though lawfully PRC is in the clear. SCS is an inheritance dispute, which other parties decided to involve arbituation that China didn't accede to.

But the practical answer is, under Westphalian order whose principles are enshrined in UN Charter (again the organizing order post war), PRC has authority to declare whatever she wants within her domestic jurisdiction, of which Tibet and Taiwan is formally recognized to be part of. UN has no position on legal/procedural merits PCA/UNCLOS ruling for SCS. That's a messy situation that gets resolved same way all territorial problems in Westphalian order gets resolved in lieu of treaty/accord that formally assigns ownership, territorial control with lots of force. So Chinese authority is derived from the same post war order as everyone else.

Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by rini17 on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @04:46AM (#28691569)
That's exactly what governments do.

And private persons with human rights have the authority to name territorial conquest by its rightful name.

Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by dotancohen on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @06:29AM (#28692022)
Alright then. With the authority vested in my by HN comment #28691569 (2021-09-29, rini17) I hereby declare all expansion ambitions of the United States of America on the North American continent after 1776 as territorial conquest. Furthermore, I declare all United Nations military presence on soil not under US control in 1776, especially soil not on the North American continent, to be territorial conquest.
Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by rini17 on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @07:25AM (#28692326)
Now notice how no one is going to "harmonize" you.
Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by sudosysgen on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @12:04PM (#28695593)
Not anymore that it is an unshakable fact and it doesn't matter what you think. Go back in 1790 or 1810 and see yourself jailed as a traitor.
Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by rini17 on Thursday September 30, 2021 @07:47AM (#28705260)
Can you restate that? I honestly don't understand.
Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by sudosysgen on Thursday September 30, 2021 @01:22PM (#28708761)
If you had stated as much in times where the status of NA was actually at stake instead of now when it doesn't matter what you think, the US authorities and US society in general would not have been happy.
Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by rini17 on Saturday October 02, 2021 @04:34AM (#28727050)
Even in deepest times of such "unhapiness", dissenters were not suddenly vanishing like they do now in China.
Re:Hypersonic HAWC missile flies, but details are kept hidden by dotancohen on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @07:38AM (#28692411)
Can you restate that? I honestly don't understand.