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Re:The train that shrunk France and Western Europe by GDC7 on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @07:27AM (#28681525)
I don't know about the TGV and other high speed trains, but in normal trains you can move from one compartment to the other.

So I stand by what I said and I claim once again that you only need one ill intentioned person with a firearm and everybody on board is basically done, they'd move across compartments and off everybody.

There are thousands of trains which all have that same vulnerability, so a coordinated attack would have a toll much higher than everything seen before.

People have a blindspot, they'd claim that such attack would never take place because the "production value" is not the same as explosive attacks.

I don't think hoping that ill intentioned people hold "production value" as rigorous parameter when planning an attack is a valuable strategy

Re:The train that shrunk France and Western Europe by himinlomax on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @07:32AM (#28681552)
Such a person with a firearm would do the same damage in a mall than in the TGV. There is no multiplier effect, unlike in a plane.
Re:The train that shrunk France and Western Europe by GDC7 on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @07:41AM (#28681626)
The amount of people per square foot surface, the fact that there is no way out and the fact that police cannot rush to the scene.

It's not like a mall

> There is no multiplier effect

Your multiplier effect is the initial factor advantage of how easy it is to pack a firearm on a train.

A depressed kid could do it, easy target to recruit online, and doesn't even need firearm training considering that it would be as easy as shooting sardines in a barrel given the physical space in a train.

So basically an ill intentioned group would need to recruit 20 depressed kids , put them on 20 different trains departing at approximately the same time and they'd cause a toll in excess of everything seen before

Re:The train that shrunk France and Western Europe by himinlomax on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @07:53AM (#28681714)
Again, it's just as easy to pack a firearm in a mall. That's why the security is the same as in a mall.
Re:The train that shrunk France and Western Europe by GDC7 on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @08:26AM (#28681973)
The amount of people per square foot surface, the fact that there is no way out and the fact that police cannot rush to the scene

A train is not a mall.

Re:The train that shrunk France and Western Europe by zwaps on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @11:36AM (#28684064)
True, there are more people in a mall, and you don’t need a long time to move through piece by piece…. as you need for the train.

What if the train stops? This can be done by any personell quickly. Doors and windows of trains can be opened everywhere, they are designed that way. Stop the train, intercom and tell people to leave the train and the situation is over.

Chances are this will turn out differently than you assume