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Re:Goldman Sachs, Ozy Media and a $40M conference call gone ... by makeitdouble on Monday September 27, 2021 @11:43PM (#28679079)
By this token most of the tertiary sector can't be hard working and struggling, which would be more than 2/3 of the workers.

We'd also have to exclude all the workers that aren't in abusive conditions, like self owned artisan shops, plumbers etc. And exclude gig economy workers who don't literally work themselves to death and only work "a lot" for little pay.

You might be right, but the slice left is so small I am not sure it's a useful distinction in most conversations. Perhaps qualifying ditch digging and coal mining as "extreme working" and "hardcore struggling" would be a better fit.

Re:Goldman Sachs, Ozy Media and a $40M conference call gone ... by Thorrez on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @02:10AM (#28679803)
I think ethbr0 was kind of dividing it into 3 categories:

People with it easy: 2.5x median and working in an office, which includes programmers

People with it hard: making little and doing backbreaking labor

People with it medium: everyone else

So we shouldn't say people in the easy category are struggling, and for perspective we should think about people in the hard category. But we can't say one way or the other about people in the medium category.

Re:Goldman Sachs, Ozy Media and a $40M conference call gone ... by ethbr0 on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @09:33AM (#28682564)
To quantify it, I guess it's the ratio of (physical or mental discomfort) to (compensation) that I'm talking about.

I wouldn't say programmers have exceptionally high mental discomfort; we certainly don't have high physical discomfort. And we're well compensated, relatively speaking.

In contrast, we have oil field workers(?): uncomfortable physical and mental work, but well compensated. Or meat processors: uncomfortable physical and mental work, poorly compensated.

By that metric, it seems like we're doing pretty well.