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Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by pmorici on Monday September 27, 2021 @10:40PM (#28678706)
Every US Tesla comes with a ccs adapter. Zero chance that any material segment of customer makes a buying decision based on the shape of the charge port connector.
Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by jeffbee on Monday September 27, 2021 @10:54PM (#28678786)
Since when? I've never seen one and there are threads on Tesla owners' forums from literally minutes ago where people are still discussing the lack of factory adapters for J1772/CCS1.
Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by natch on Monday September 27, 2021 @11:58PM (#28679171)
J1772 adapters came with mine. And you can buy them on the Tesla site.

CCS, I would not use, because superchargers are so much faster and easier. Plug in, done. No extra cards, apps, face scan, login, etc.

Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by WorldMaker on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @03:42PM (#28686611)
CCS supports "plug & charge" technically, but right now it is between the manufacturers and the networks to arrange which cars support it. Obviously, Tesla doesn't right now have a reason to support "plug & charge" on CCS networks when they've got their own network. But on the flipside, Europe has several networks with CCS "plug & charge" working for a number of vehicles and Electrify America is just now starting to light up CCS "plug & charge" for interested manufacturers. (I believe the Ford Mach-E and F-150 Lightning both support it today, IIRC.)
Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by pmorici on Monday September 27, 2021 @11:20PM (#28678946)
Mine came with one in 2019. Never use it. There are at least 4 different J1772 plug types though so probably one of the others is what people are missing. The Tesla connection is slim and sleek compared to the ccs boat anchors
Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by clouddrover on Monday September 27, 2021 @11:25PM (#28678976)
I think you're confusing the J1772 plug with CCS Type 1 Combo. The combo plug has J1772 on top and two extra contacts on the bottom for DC fast charging:

https://interchargers.com/plug/type-1/

Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by Retric on Monday September 27, 2021 @11:27PM (#28678982)
This is CSS type 2 and supports up to 142 kW fast charging.

https://www.tesla.com/en_EU/support/charging-connectors

This is the US j1772 that’s limited to 19.2kW. https://shop.tesla.com/product/sae-j1772-charging-adapter

Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by pmorici on Monday September 27, 2021 @11:46PM (#28679109)
The Tesla super charger network does 250 kw on the newest stations and they said they will roll out 300. Why would anyone want to limit their charge speed and have a bulkier plug doesn’t make sense I would guess long term us will adopt Tesla standard it is simply better.
Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by clouddrover on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @02:25AM (#28679874)
> The Tesla super charger network does 250 kw on the newest stations and they said they will roll out 300

The fastest CCS chargers in North America do 350 kW today. The CCS Megawatt Charging System will do 3.75 megawatts:

https://www.charin.global/technology/mcs/

> I would guess long term us will adopt Tesla standard

No. Everyone else has standardized on CCS Type 1 Combo for North America. Tesla will switch to CCS too.

Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by syshum on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @01:22AM (#28679611)
Something being better does not mean it will win

Linux is objectively better than Windows, even for the desktop, Windows still wins.

Tesla has other issues around it that other manufacturers will simply not adopt the "Tesla Standard"

Most of them have already signed on to something else..

Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by moojd on Monday September 27, 2021 @11:07PM (#28678860)
Not only does it not come with a ccs adapter you can not even buy one from Tesla.
Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by natch on Monday September 27, 2021 @11:53PM (#28679149)
I guess you mean J1772. But CCS adapters are available from third parties.

Tesla drivers don’t need CCS though since the supercharger network is so good.

Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by throwawayboise on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @12:57AM (#28679511)
It's not so good everywhere.

Where I am there is one Tesla charging location (with 8 charging stations). It is roughly 20 minutes away from any of my usual work/shopping/dining destinations. The next closest superchargers are over 50 miles away.

Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by natch on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @12:30AM (#28690327)
Wall outlets also work, and available in many homes and apartments. They are slow of course but it’s been surprising to us how much we can get away with just a single 110 alternating for two cars.
Re:Ford to invest in EV and battery plants in Tennessee and ... by cptskippy on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @12:41AM (#28679426)
They come with a J1772, not CCS Combo 1. Combo 1 is J1772 + some DC pins.

The DC pins are the desirable part. J1772 is limited to I think 19kWh and is considered L2.

CCS Combo 1 is very rare in North America.