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Re:The Science of the Benefits of Religion by smackeyacky on Sunday September 26, 2021 @12:19AM (#28658366)
Chetty also notes that his study can't be used to determine whether single parent families are a cause or an effect. Racial segregation and quality of schooling are also noted as being correlated with lower social mobility in that study.

I object to the notion that there is some acceptable level of violence and abuse we need to tolerate for the dubious good that any institution might claim. There is only one acceptable level of violence and abuse and that is zero.

Re:The Science of the Benefits of Religion by exporectomy on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:20AM (#28658611)
> There is only one acceptable level of violence and abuse and that is zero.

You don't actually believe that because governments commit violent using their police and military and you accept that.

Re:The Science of the Benefits of Religion by smackeyacky on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:50AM (#28658720)
When did I say that was acceptable?
Re:The Science of the Benefits of Religion by exporectomy on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:08AM (#28658771)
When you said tolerating any violence was unacceptable. It takes violence to protect people from violence.
Re:The Science of the Benefits of Religion by smackeyacky on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:56AM (#28658966)
That's quite a logical leap. Would you care to lay out the exact steps from somebody saying they find violence unacceptable, to asserting that they definitely support state sanctioned violence?
Re:The Science of the Benefits of Religion by exporectomy on Sunday September 26, 2021 @05:51PM (#28664994)
For the state to not tolerate any violence, it must prevent violence among its citizens and from foreign attackers. The only way we have that works is using violence to restrain criminals, or fight against enemy armies. We don't have any perfect safety shield that can protect everyone without harming the attackers, or to prevent people from doing violent acts without physically restraining them (violence).