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Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by Cryptonic on Saturday September 25, 2021 @10:35PM (#28657951)
So you are telling us electric cars, loaded by home solar power have no issues?
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by neilwilson on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:20AM (#28658608)
Only that electricity providers are going bust on a daily basis.

This is the UK we're talking about and it's nearly October. You'd struggle to power a flashlight from solar power at this time of year.

Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by dumb_throw on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:35AM (#28658670)
It's a little odd that Bulb, who boast about supplying "100% renewable" power, are affected by gas prices.
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by MattPalmer1086 on Sunday September 26, 2021 @05:49AM (#28659604)
Electricity is from renewables, gas is made green through offsetting. They supply both.

Edit: at least in the UK, they only claim green, not fully renewable.

Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by dumb_throw on Sunday September 26, 2021 @06:40AM (#28659812)
Right, so they should have a competitive advantage over those "traditional" fossil-fuel burning electricity suppliers. That is, they can continue selling renewable electricity unaffected by gas prices.
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by MattPalmer1086 on Sunday September 26, 2021 @07:24AM (#28659984)
It does seem like they would have an advantage there, although they would still be affected.
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by shalmanese on Sunday September 26, 2021 @04:17PM (#28664263)
Well, yeah, because electricity is fungible. Other power providers that can't get the electricity they need from gas are turning to renewables, driving up prices for everyone.
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by dumb_throw on Monday September 27, 2021 @12:30AM (#28667095)
That's not what's happening. Coal-fired power stations are being re-activated to cover the shortfall.

You do raise a good point - as electricity is fungible, and the power grid is built, operated, and maintained by a national institution, then how can a particular energy provider promise that their power is more renewable than that from the the others? Otherwise, every time Bulb gets a new customer, we are supposed to believe that they get all the renewable electrons, and the power supplied to the rest of us is just a bit more fossil-fueled.

I do know the answer, and that is that those companies just buy and sell the various "pinky promise" certificates and accreditations that pass for being "renewable" and "carbon-neutral" , and have nothing at all to do with actually boosting the supply of renewables.

Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by 7952 on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:59AM (#28658976)
The companies going bust buy energy wholesale and resell to consumers. The companies generating the power are different.
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by dumb_throw on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:33AM (#28658657)
Yes. After a huge up-front cost, you can charge your shiny EV and drive it about as far as I can easily cycle in a day. Progress!
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by ithkuil on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:34AM (#28658860)
There are some EV with >500km range per charge. The world record for cycling 560km is about 15h
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by dumb_throw on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:40AM (#28658893)
And? You sure can't charge 500km in one day from domestic solar (which is the topic of this conversation). You might get 20km.
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by ithkuil on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:46AM (#28658919)
Yeah not sure why the thread ended up restricting the domestic electricity source to solar. The main conversation is what to do when gas stations cannot be re-fueled due to truck-driver-shortage-induced panic buying, and not because there is a general fuel shortage that would affect electricity distribution
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by dumb_throw on Sunday September 26, 2021 @04:06AM (#28659217)
Maybe, but this is a fun diversion that OP started.

The UK is also suffering from a fuel shortage that is affecting electricity distribution, exacerbated by a heavy reliance on wind and an ongoing period of low winds.

Oddly enough, it's all the little "100% renewable" power companies that are going bust, when you'd think they were independent of natural gas prices.

Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by davidhbolton on Sunday September 26, 2021 @12:12PM (#28662086)
No, the UK is not suffering from a shortage of fuel, just the delivery mechanism for one chain. BP.
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by dumb_throw on Sunday September 26, 2021 @12:32PM (#28662238)
I was making a comment about the supply of natural gas for electricity generation. Gas prices have spiked, which is causing issues. Several providers have already gone bust.
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by ithkuil on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:35PM (#28662779)
Is the situation really so severe that if I had a Tesla I couldn't charge it at home?
Re:UK fuel shortage worsens as industry chief warns ‘people ... by dumb_throw on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:38PM (#28663369)
It's still playing out as we head into winter, and is already being called a crisis. I've based my life around having everything within cycling distance, so should be ok as long as the roads don't get icy!