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Re:When McDonalds Came to Denmark by philwelch on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:19PM (#28635586)
> I don't [deny the existence of the middle class]

Good for you. This whole subthread started when I was arguing with this comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28617665), which states:

> People often categorise themselves as middle class just because they have a decent job and a mortgage - they are in fact just labour. None of their income comes from capital.

> Middle class is mostly a myth, unless you can quit your job and maintain your lifestyle, you are labour, not capital.

I think you are taking my comments completely out of this context and mistakenly inferring lots of things that I didn't say. To wit:

> the tables still need waiting, food still needs harvesting etc. You can't run an economy on just middle managers, software engineers and financiers; what do you think happens to everybody else who doesn't get the "personal choice" to earn above the average wage?

People can develop skills throughout their lives. I don't disagree that there are some people who have to spend their entire lives working as unskilled labor, but I think this is a minority of the working population. Again, I said "most", not "all", which is what you seem to have inferred.

> But the point is that wealth does not correlate with hard-workingness or spend-thriftiness or whatever implication your argument from personal choice is meant to create

My only intended implication is that, contrary to ClumsyPilot's claim that the middle class is "mostly a myth", members of the middle classes are often capable of achieving financial independence, but end up not doing so as a consequence of their personal choices. You seem to be again inferring some all-or-nothing absolute statement that I didn't make.

> "Working poor" is a real concept, perhaps one you're too abstracted from to be aware of.

You seem to be inferring that I claim the working poor don't exist. I only said the working poor are a minority of the working population. Another all-or-nothing inference.

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