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Re:Ask HN: Are you also getting extremely obvious spam bypas... by pmlnr on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:14PM (#28635522)
Yet legitimate mail from my server with valid DKIM, DMARC, SPF, PTR record, decade old domain lands in spam. Good job, AI first Google/Gmail.
Re:Ask HN: Are you also getting extremely obvious spam bypas... by vgeek on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:30PM (#28635731)
Who is to say that it isn't working as intended in building a higher wall around their ad garden? There should be a way for them to accept mail from self hosted users, or even provide some sort of testing tools (perhaps validated by credit card some type of bar to increase accountability? At least an RBL or something) for those who do, but nope.
Re:Ask HN: Are you also getting extremely obvious spam bypas... by upofadown on Thursday September 23, 2021 @06:11PM (#28636246)
I am beginning to think that the simplest explanation is the most likely one. Google is just bad at stuff...

If this was all part of some clever conspiracy then it would be, well, more clever...

Re:Ask HN: Are you also getting extremely obvious spam bypas... by remus on Thursday September 23, 2021 @06:28PM (#28636396)
Or more simple still, it's a hard problem to solve and when there's billions of emails flowing through the pipeline every hour small mistakes can look big to individual users.
Re:Ask HN: Are you also getting extremely obvious spam bypas... by fay59 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @06:59PM (#28636659)
Same as with gaming search, it’s possible that spammers are catching up with the Google smarts, and from this point it’s unclear how to proceed.
Re:Ask HN: Are you also getting extremely obvious spam bypas... by schappim on Thursday September 23, 2021 @06:58PM (#28636647)
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity", except for the "promotions tab", that was clear malice to increase their ads revenue.
Re:Ask HN: Are you also getting extremely obvious spam bypas... by cube00 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @08:26PM (#28637263)
I don't think they're bad, it feels more like they hit the 80/20 point and move on to something else. In the case of spam detection, whatever worked ten years ago set and forget without anyone quality assuring it as things evolve.
Re:Ask HN: Are you also getting extremely obvious spam bypas... by lytefm on Friday September 24, 2021 @05:56PM (#28648265)
Also, they want more people to use Gmail or GSuite. If that's the way to reach an Inbox on GMail, people simply choose the path of least resistance.