Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics protect themselves?

Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p... by codingdave on Thursday September 23, 2021 @08:37AM (#28628269)

I am not an academic, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I would simply reply that you cannot share data before publication, but they certainly can see the published data once it is public, and you could answer questions at that time.

Other than that, I don't see anything that implies retaliation. If I owned a product and people were potentially going to publish negative facts about it, I'd be asking for information, too. Not because I want a fight, but because it is simply good practice to understand people's concerns about your product, and have an opportunity to fix the problems.

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Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p... by rscho on Thursday September 23, 2021 @11:20AM (#28630451)

> I would simply reply that you cannot share data before publication, but they certainly can see the published data once it is public

We did that. We only didn't respond to the request to meet in person. Sorry if I was unclear.

> I'd be asking for information, too. Not because I want a fight, but because it is simply good practice to understand people's concerns about your product, and have an opportunity to fix the problems.

Good point. Unfortunately, we don't really know _why_ the product doesn't work. We only know that statistically speaking, we have low quality evidence that the impact on tested outcomes is negative. So fixing things won't be easy at all.

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Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p... by softwarefounder on Thursday September 23, 2021 @01:23PM (#28632258)

Also understand that if the company comes under heat, the VP has "protected" him/herself by trying to reconcile it.

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