Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p...
by rscho on Thursday September 23, 2021 @08:19AM
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Yes, indeed and we'll probably do that after publication. It probably also opens us to accusations of mishandled data / bad interpretation by the company, though?
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Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p...
by Jugurtha on Thursday September 23, 2021 @09:26AM
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>It probably also opens us to accusations of mishandled data / bad interpretation by the company, though?
Isn't that how science works? I also don't think they're called accusations.
You work with data and you state something based on that data. Someone else may point out that some steps of the process are flawed, or the data is flawed. That's the very nature of this.
Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p...
by rscho on Thursday September 23, 2021 @11:12AM
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Depends on who makes the claim, I guess. We are absolutely not afraid of scientific reviews. We're afraid of potential legal reviews made in bad faith. A company doesn't have to win a legal case to win against researchers, they just have to make a fuss.
Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p...
by Jugurtha on Saturday September 25, 2021 @01:45PM
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I see. Is this common in your area of research?
Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p...
by rscho on Saturday September 25, 2021 @04:02PM
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It's not common, although a group was sued by a company this year. So we'd like to anticipate, just in case.
Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p...
by gameman144 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @10:32AM
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Not just the company, but other researchers and peers as well. This seems kinda like the point of including it with the publication, doesn't it? What's the value of the study of it can't be evaluated or peer-reviewed with the data present?
Re:Ask HN: Under pressure from industry, how can academics p...
by rscho on Thursday September 23, 2021 @11:09AM
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In my field, most studies are peer-reviewed without review of the data itself. The study was conducted strictly according to best practices guidelines, so we are not afraid of peer review. We are afraid of the suits coming in and making a fuss because they're big and have big money while we're small and penniless.