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Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by knighthack on Thursday September 23, 2021 @07:44AM (#28627846)
Why does the author keep referring to the player as 'her'?

This neither seems in line with the traditional use of 'he/him' in English texts, or even the neutrality of 'he/him and or she/her'. It reads more like a stunted attempt to virtue signal. I'm quite confident that Civilization games skew to male players, rather than female.

What a great way to alienate readers. More so when gender was not a central feature of the article at all.

Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by UncleMeat on Thursday September 23, 2021 @08:34AM (#28628250)
Referring to abstract actors as "she" and "her" only alienates a very specific kind of reader. Consciously using female pronouns in these contexts is a very small way of pushing against the norm of everything being male, which is commendable. You'll see it more and more in CS papers nowadays. I cannot possibly imagine being upset by this.
Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by mdp2021 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:41PM (#28631615)
> pushing against the norm of everything being male

The perception some have is instead that of inserting gender where it was irrelevant. (Those "some" do not associate 'he' and masculine, probably also for cultural reasons as expressed nearby.)

Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by torstenvl on Thursday September 23, 2021 @08:40AM (#28628292)
It alienates everyone who cares about accuracy and everyone who is sick of politics infiltrating every last corner of our lives.

You may not fall into either of those two camps, but let me assure you, it's a lot of people.

For reference, the gender-neutral singular in English is "they/them/their"

they /T͟Hā/ pronoun

2. used to refer to a person of unspecified gender.

Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by saalweachter on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:17PM (#28631271)
> You may not fall into either of those two camps, but let me assure you, it's a lot of people.

I think thou'st meant "Thou may not fall into either of those two camps, but let me assure thee, it's a lot of people."

The commenter thou art replying to is a singular person, not a group, and as we know, while other words may come and go, the use of pronouns in a language does not change over time.

Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by torstenvl on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:10PM (#28635456)
Singular "they" dates back to the 14th century. "Thou" fell out of use in the 17th century.

https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/200700

https://www.etymonline.com/word/thee#etymonline_v_10720

Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by UncleMeat on Thursday September 23, 2021 @10:18AM (#28629502)
I think you'll find that the set of people who complain about using "she/her" in abstract contexts also complain about using "they".
Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by xboxnolifes on Thursday September 23, 2021 @03:57PM (#28634448)
> For reference, the gender-neutral singular in English is "they/them/their"

Let me also assure you that "they" hasn't always been (and still isn't to many) accepted as a singular pronoun. Crazy how things change.

Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by Sevaris on Thursday September 23, 2021 @07:50AM (#28627884)
Sorry, why do you care? Why does it matter? "He/she" is simply unwieldy in writing text meant to be read by other people. Pick whatever pronoun you want to use. It. Does. Not. Matter. What I don't understand is complaining about how somebody else is not using your preferred generic pronoun.
Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by mdp2021 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:28PM (#28631417)
Some languages use the form also used for masculine as generic - officially, as part of their grammar, long before the political matter about what is appropriate exploded. To find that the English language does not follow this rule ("he" as generic) leaves some confused, and even unconvinced: 'she' looks like a modification of 'he', so 'he' looks generic.

In fact, their "close" relation is just apparent: it seems that 'he' comes from variations from the demonstrative 'ki' ("this/here"), but 'she', while still coming from a demonstrative, comes from a different demonstrative, 'so' (feminine 'seo') - the source of 'the' -, which came into use to disambiguate as original feminine 'heo' collapsed into 'he' in spoken language.

Re:Sid Meier and the meaning of ‘Civilization’ by BeetleB on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:17PM (#28631260)
> Why does the author keep referring to the player as 'her'?

Although less common, this is nothing new. I've seen texts that use "her" as the primary pronoun since the 90's.

(And yes, people have been pointlessly complaining for that long).