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Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by iSnow on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:07AM (#28626833)
Not great, but better than I personally expected: "Inductive charging is not as efficient as direct charging [...] An analysis of energy use found that charging a Pixel 4 from 0 to 100 percent on a classic cable used 14.26 Wh (watt-hours), while doing so with a wireless charger took 21.01 Wh, a 47 percent increase. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging

Of course problems like heating up the battery and the huge amount of power needed if everyone does it remain.

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by InsomniacL on Thursday September 23, 2021 @06:05AM (#28627207)
"900 million active iphones in use" - CFO Luca Maestri

14.26 Wh * 900000000 * 365 (days) = 4684 GWh/yr

46% = 2154 GWh/yr wasted energy

That's about the total energy output of Madagascar with a population of 27 million people.

There's a lot of reasons why the above numbers are wrong but I just wanted to highlight that at current efficiency, there would be a lot of wasted energy. :)

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by saddlerustle on Thursday September 23, 2021 @07:48AM (#28627873)
Thats about the energy demand of a single small aluminium smelter
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by elzbardico on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:03PM (#28631083)
not exactly a lot of energy in the big scheme of things
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by jopsen on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:07PM (#28634568)
Yeah, it's not so much efficiency.. phones don't have that big batteries anyways.

I would be more concerned about charging speed and heating.

Inefficiency implies heating :)

And wow, do I love charging my phone using my laptops USB-C charger.. it's just so fast!

I don't really see the appeal of wireless charging. Faster direct charging would be a bigger win, IMO.

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by avianlyric on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:16AM (#28626895)
I did some maths (which maybe some should double check), but for an iPhone with a 12 wh battery. Doing a complete charge cycle everyday would consume an extra 5.6kwh over a year! Far more than I expected.
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by maccard on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:27AM (#28626975)
or $0.70 per year at current energy prices.
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by zatarc on Thursday September 23, 2021 @06:45AM (#28627460)
Germany: hold my beer! 1.78€ or $2.09

But thats not point here. Everyone is talking about the climate change and then we want to charge millions or billions of phones with ~50% extra power?

Good idea!

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by maccard on Thursday September 23, 2021 @07:19AM (#28627681)
In absolute terms it's nothing though. An average household uses 4000 kWh of electricity in the UK (less than half of the average us household), so saving the 5kWh on 4 phones is a 0.5% saving, which is roughly equivalent to running your home boiler for 10 minutes per year. Turning off your thermostat for one evening would have the equivalent impact of not using a wireless charger for a century.
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by throw0101a on Thursday September 23, 2021 @07:45AM (#28627854)
> In absolute terms it's nothing though.

Symbols can hold power though.

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by maccard on Thursday September 23, 2021 @08:59AM (#28628464)
Do we not have enough symbols? Plastic bags, domestic recycling, plastic straws are all strong "symbols" and yet we're still fighting about a couple of kWh rather than making any meaningful change.
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by swebs on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:14PM (#28631224)
Sure, as long as the electricity doesn't come from fossil fuels. Why not?