Re:Lesson of ivermectin: meta-analyses based on summary data...
by dboreham on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @08:40PM
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In my mind, there is also underlying all this the idea that if a drug actually works, then there will be many doctors going on CNN to say that it totally works; that they're super excited by their patients recovering. In other words, the effect should be profound. If the effect is marginal, why bother, even if it is a real measurable effect in well conducted trials? I mean : that doctors observe that some therapy or drug works well is step 1, then step 2 is to conduct trials to prove conclusively that step 1 wasn't a statistical fluke. In this case we seem to have it backwards : we first observed that there is an effect in vitro, then ran trials which proved nothing much, then extracted noise from that data to prove whatever we wanted.
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Re:Lesson of ivermectin: meta-analyses based on summary data...
by bb88 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @11:30PM
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> ...then there will be many doctors going on CNN to say that it totally works...
I don't think we can trust "doctors" anymore.
There were a bunch of doctors (aka America's Frontline Doctors) that were trying to go around and say Ivermectin works. Same with HCQ. The "needle rape" doctor in Idaho said the vaccine is dangerous, but Ivermectin saves lives.
In Idaho, I assure you, doctor's are prescribing patients Ivermectin in the ICU. If it really did work Boise would be the groundswell of Ivermectin miracles, where people are walking out of the ICU, ending the crisis.
Unfortunately, that's not happening. ICU's are primarily being freed up from death now it seems like. ICU's are in the high 90's capacity.
https://idahocapitalsun.com/2021/09/22/today-in-idaho-hospit...
Re:Lesson of ivermectin: meta-analyses based on summary data...
by colordrops on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @10:39PM
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Determining effectiveness through the number or media reach of doctors talking about it is the opposite of science.