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Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by prox on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:12PM (#28621878)
I have HDDs running longer than most Google projects do. So that point is really moot.
Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by whymauri on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:14PM (#28621915)
Ditto. And when I felt it was near end-of-life, I just moved it over to a more stable SSD.

I'm honestly thinking I'm going to have to backup my entire G-Drive externally and wipe it (for the security of my Google account). I mean, who knows what will trigger the deletion of your Google account these days... I guess the storage I pay for is just for e-mails.

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by DaiPlusPlus on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:22PM (#28621997)
Incidentally, I’ve had more SSDs fail - or misbehave - on me than spinning-rust drives now. And I don’t just mean cheap SSDs either, but an Intel Optane 905p I own results in hundreds of PCI Express bus errors every minute when plugged-in to any ASUS motherboard I own, while a SATA Intel 530 woke-up one day completely unreadable. And throw-in a couple of Samsung SSD failures too.

It’s enough to make me anxious between backups: at least with spinning rust-drives we can transplant the platters and controllers (separately, even!) while SSD hardware recovery is almost unheard of.

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by genewitch on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @09:50PM (#28624385)
I keep SSDs less than half full and use trim, paranoiacly. Because of this I use an SSD for a year or two before I get a larger one, or an additional one (software and game assets keep getting larger!).

I've never had even the cheapest mwave or microcenter special ssd die. Sata or nvme m.2, nothing.

I also haven't had a spindle die in 15 years, ever since I started letting them sleep and using UPS to smooth out power.

That noise you hear is me knocking on wood pretty frantically.

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by andrekandre on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:44PM (#28622283)
thats interesting, its been the exact opposite for me...

though the ssds i use are for backup and arent used very often for writing... i wonder if that makes a difference?

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by theodric on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:30PM (#28622111)
>assuming the emails you're sent won't also eventually result in the locking and banning of your Google account
Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by prox on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:23PM (#28622009)
Sounds like a plan, it’s actually cheaper in a sense. Today I saw my webhost had nextcloud one-click installs, that might be useful for those files you want accessible everywhere. I already pay for the space, so it doesn’t cost me extra.
Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by DaiPlusPlus on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:18PM (#28621943)
Try explaining RAID (not just RAID0/1, but RAID6 and RAID10) to an average consumer and expect them to maintain their own NAS - that’s a bit too much.
Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by Ekaros on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:27PM (#28622069)
RAID is overkill and bad designs can cause more issues than it saves.

Two or more external-DDs, copied regularly per how much they are willing to spend time and lose data. One stored in some other place if possible.

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @08:29PM (#28623846)
A Synology NAS with RAID1 and a few terabytes is $400 to $500 including taxes. Seems pretty cheap for not having to back it up regularly. Although, the second location risk would remain.
Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by 20after4 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @08:44PM (#28623954)
the thing is, if you back up bad data to a RAID1, the mirroring isn't going to save you - you just wrote the bad data to both copies.

RAID is not a substitute for rotating backups.

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @09:07PM (#28624102)
Good point!
Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by randomhodler84 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @08:37PM (#28623904)
Until you get ransomed:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/synology-warn...

You really want offline backups. Never recommend “not having to back it up regularly”.

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @09:07PM (#28624103)
Yes, I guess there is no easy way out.
Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by pdonis on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @09:23PM (#28624206)
The author of this article is not an average consumer. He's a person undertaking a particular project that requires a lot of digital data storage, and anyone doing that needs to take the time to think through the risks and benefits of the various available options. "Just put it on Google Drive and hope it's safe" does not qualify.
Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by DaiPlusPlus on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:14AM (#28625155)
"the author of this article"

uhmm... there is no article. It's a link to a google support forum thread. And the way the author of the initial post (not just the replies) describes the way they use Google Drive and how they use technology in general suggests the person does not have the same level of tech-savvy as a typical HN reader.

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by pdonis on Thursday September 23, 2021 @02:18AM (#28625706)
> there is no article. It's a link to a google support forum thread

Fine, then s/article/post/ in what I said.

> the way the author of the initial post (not just the replies) describes the way they use Google Drive and how they use technology in general suggests the person does not have the same level of tech-savvy as a typical HN reader

I agree; I'm simply pointing out that if you are going to try to execute a project that requires a lot of digital storage of important data, you should be tech savvy, or collaborate with someone who is. You certainly should not expect a free service like Google Drive to be a secure, reliable data store for your only copies of important data.

Re:Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as ... by prox on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:19PM (#28621965)
I have vanilla HDDs who do their job nicely for years now. The most important files are duplicated across a few HDDs.