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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by southerntofu on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @03:44AM (#28613969)
> perhaps does not because lightning's connector has preferable RF sensitivity profile

Given that literally every other smartphone on the market has a USB-C port, i'd say this is not the reason why Apple used a non-standard connector, failing (voluntarily) to comply with European interoperability laws/standards.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by aardvarkr on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @10:53AM (#28616987)
FYI the interpretability standards passed recently were for the charging block. Every device has to charge from a usb c port so that’s why Apple switched.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by southerntofu on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:32AM (#28627015)
Apple switched? Switched what? I'm not up to date :)
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by toyg on Thursday September 23, 2021 @09:20AM (#28628701)
Apple are slowly migrating to solutions that feature USB-C at some level, even if they keep Lightning on the phone itself. That's because EU authorities have signalled that they know Apple are taking the mickey, and will continue making more stringent rules until Apple play ball. E.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58665809
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by aardvarkr on Friday September 24, 2021 @09:23PM (#28649567)
They started giving you a USB C to lightning cable instead of the usual USB A
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by jjtheblunt on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @12:42PM (#28618516)
Lightning was shipped before USB-C was standardized, if I recall.

Sep 2012 for lightning shipped, and USB-C not ratified as a standard until Aug 2014.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by southerntofu on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:34AM (#28627027)
Micro-USB was the standard back then. All phone manufacturers had custom proprietary (though most jack-based) connectors, but due to european regulations they all switched to micro-USB to comply with standards... all, except Apple of course who went another way.

Apple was not exactly unaware of these developments, as they have repeatedly signed the memorandums of understanding surrounding charger interoperability, according to wikipedia.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by danudey on Thursday September 23, 2021 @02:15PM (#28632925)
For what it's worth, Lightning is dramatically better than Micro-USB ever was, and IMHO it's still better than USB-C in terms of form factor (it's thinner, allowing for thinner ports, so thinner devices) but not compatibility (I have to have a bunch of C-to-lightning cables and a bunch of C-to-C cables).