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Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by lottin on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:43PM (#28609672)
> So no, when rates go up to x+5 you will never be able to find bonds that pay x+5.

What? If the current rate is x, this means that this is the rate a bond being issued right now is paying. If the rate goes up to whatever, it means that bonds being issued right now are paying whatever.

Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by bogomipz on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @05:14PM (#28610048)
No, there is an inverse relationship between between interest rates and bond prices. This is an axiom in the bond market. See:

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/why-interest-rates-...

Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by lottin on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @05:53PM (#28610480)
Yes, I know that. We are talking about rates.
Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by bogomipz on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:41PM (#28611404)
Rates on bonds are meaningless without considering yield.
Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by fshbbdssbbgdd on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:48PM (#28611468)
Rate and yield are the same thing. Whenever I’m paying a rate, somebody else is earning a yield. Whenever I’m earning a yield, someone else is paying a rate.
Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by bogomipz on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @08:09PM (#28611633)
They are related but they are certainly not the same thing.
Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by lottin on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @03:20AM (#28613861)
Yield is a normalised rate of interest, so that bonds of different characteristics can be compared. When people say a bond pays certain interest rate, they mean the normalised rate, i.e. the yield, otherwise they would make clear they're talking about the "nominal rate", which is different. Therefore in most contexts, rate and yield are the same thing.

Anyway, the thing is if the spot rate is x% you will certainly be able to find bonds in the market that pay x% interest (=yield), regardless of the fact that a bond's yield and price are negatively correlated (an irrelevant fact, for the purposes of this discussion).