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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by javajosh on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:23PM (#28608789)
Special hardware seems 007 childish to me. What's better, having a high-tech tricked-out phone/laptop, or to just have a random stock Android with an inoffensive sim card in it? It seems obvious to me that if you're being targeted, tailed and tracked and probed, you've already lost.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by trutannus on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:29PM (#28608870)
No, I mean if you're buying a laptop off the shelf and not ripping telemetry components and whatnot (WIFI card/airgap for example). Customizing hardware to foil any out of the box attacks, rather than some sharks-and-lasers config to 'protect it'. Governments do this all the time for even slightly sensitive information.

Commenter above was saying though that the device's anti-tamper tech would save you from state level attacks. I'm just getting at the fact that that's not going to work, since if a proverbial 'they' want to take you out, there's other ways to do so you can't overcome. Just a few examples that came to me about how easy it is to foil anti-tampering measures.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by mschuster91 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:32PM (#28608903)
Your "random stock Android" likely has a boatload of exploits open unless it's a Google Pixel.

> It seems obvious to me that if you're being targeted, tailed and tracked and probed, you've already lost.

Depends on which government agency watchlist you are. If you are some sort of Islamist terrorist, the tools that are open to the government are far more capable than if you are some sort of low level drug dealer.