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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by cogman10 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @01:39PM (#28607499)
We've been told for years that "slim and tiny is what you really want!"

No, I don't want slim and tiny, I want to be able to replace and upgrade parts. I want a battery I can swap out or RAM I can replace.

The problem is that being able to swap parts extends service life of machines. Can't have that when they want you to just buy a new one ever 3 years.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by NotPractical on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:30PM (#28608141)
As a student, I do want my laptop to be slim and tiny, but I was misled by Apple into thinking slim and tiny is only possible if the laptop isn't at all repairable. Might sell my MacBook Pro for this thing. Though macOS is a guilty pleasure I will miss :(

Edit: Also the 16:10 aspect ratio :(

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by fartcannon on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:17PM (#28608727)
You won't miss it after a few months in Linux's diverse desktop experience ecosystem.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by NotPractical on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:04PM (#28609273)
I reserved a Steam Deck because I wanted to support Valve's efforts to expand support for Windows games (and by extension, apps) to Linux through their open source Proton project. I think the future of Linux is looking very bright.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by selectodude on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:56PM (#28609179)
"Diverse" is certainly one way to put it.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by solarfair on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:46PM (#28608344)
For those who were curious like me, it seems that Hackintosh support is spotty at best.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by NotPractical on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @06:56PM (#28611064)
I did a little research on this, and it seems the main (perhaps only?) problem is that all mobo configs come with an 11th gen Intel CPU with Iris Xe graphics.[1] Since the last Intel Macs used 10th gen chips with Iris Plus graphics, and Apple isn't making any more Intel Macs, it's likely that macOS will never support Iris Xe. What a shame. While I do intend to switch to Linux eventually, the ability to run macOS would have made it easier to switch from a MacBook.

[1] https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Install-Guide/macos-limi...

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by hinkley on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:31PM (#28608896)
Slim and tiny is what I wanted when thinkpads were smaller and lighter than average.

Once we hit five pounds and I had a bag that stopped caring about smaller laptops? Well that was about the time that desktops died and I could have used a workstation class laptop with some more flexibility.

But I opted for simple and put my energy somewhere else instead. Seems a lot of people did.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by notriddle on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:37PM (#28609612)
Also, laptops have built-in keyboards, by definition, which means that it can never be thinner than the key travel distance anyway.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by hinkley on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @06:14PM (#28610668)
It's probably an important distinction between laptops and tablets that a laptop is free to expand into three dimensions when in use.

Strictly speaking, the throw of the keyboard when in use is not limited by the dimensions of the laptop when it's not in use. There is air above and sometimes below that the keys can occupy. Having the keys raise up when opening the lid might be mechanically impractical, but having the lid depress all of the keys is a matter of ignoring key presses until the lid is opened past an angle where it stops touching the top row of keys.

Based on the shape of the smudges on my screen I'm pretty sure that already happens to an extent.