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Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by andrepd on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @11:35AM (#28606082)
No, since it's proprietary software you don't know what it's being used for. But I'd bet a great deal of money in how they store and analyse all that data for purposes of advertising and worse.

I personally don't want a list of all the "subversive literature" I read nicely compiled for corporations and government to exploit, fuck that 100x.

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by fullstop on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @11:38AM (#28606118)
I get it, it's not the device for you. You can leave it disconnected from WiFi and sideload everything if you are that paranoid.
Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by calcifer on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @12:18PM (#28606596)
It feels like the "Just don't do X if you are that paranoid" attitude is singlehandedly responsible for the increasingly egregious privacy invasions from the last decade.
Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by fullstop on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @01:13PM (#28607222)
I didn't say that. I'm saying that if you don't like how the device operates you can still use it in other ways. If the Kindles forced WiFi to be active and connected to Amazon servers, I'd see your point.
Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by andrepd on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:32PM (#28611353)
Lol. "Paranoid" is such a loaded word. Not really suited for disliking something which is openly known to happen.

Are you "paranoid about catching gonorrhea" if you decide to wear a condom? :-)

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by fullstop on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:59PM (#28611555)
Yes. I've been happily married for twenty years, so my perspective is likely to be different. ;-)
Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by sneak on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @01:41PM (#28607525)
A desire for privacy is not paranoia.

You don't even need a threat to desire privacy. It's a human right.

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by fullstop on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:11PM (#28607921)
Surely you see that a desire for privacy is not the same as:

> I personally don't want a list of all the "subversive literature" I read nicely compiled for corporations and government to exploit

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by andrepd on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:36PM (#28611376)
What don't you like about that sentence?

> subversive literature

Many books I read were on a list (as in, jail for possession) less than 40 years ago where I live.

> nicely compiled for corporations

It's literally the explicit purpose of collecting this data.

> and government

Yes, there's no way a government could ever exploit detailed data about their citizen's behaviour, inclinations, political opinions, etc.

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by sneak on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:46PM (#28608350)
I do not, that seems like a very basic expression of a desire for privacy.

Not wanting your literature choices under surveillance is a common type of privacy that many people, myself included, desire.

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by fullstop on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:10PM (#28609351)
Eh, the comment was hyperbolic at best and paranoid at worst.

The library knows which books you checked out, and the book store knows which books you've bought. Is this really that much different?

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by andrepd on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:40PM (#28611399)
The library does not sell my data to thousands of corporations as its core business model. At the book store I can pay cash if I so desire. Yes you're right, it's truly no different from a detailed live-log of everything you read, analysed, packaged, and sold to whomever pays for it.
Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by 28605584 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @12:34PM (#28606795)
I'm with you. But, as others have noted, there are ways around it, even before there's a jailbreak available:

(1) Never connect the device to the Internet. There's really no reason to.

(2) Use KFX Output in Calibre, blocking access to the Amazon servers. This is a bit of a hassle but it is doable. Especially since books take hours to read, so you're really only doing the work for a few minutes to get hours of spy-free enjoyment.

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by sneak on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @12:53PM (#28606993)
Why buy a Kindle at that point? I have a Likebook Mars that has an SD card slot that I use to load books on to it, which I have never connected to the internet.
Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by 28605584 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @12:40PM (#28618492)
In general, I find that Kindle has the best backlight, is fastest, and has a generally very smooth UI. Now, I haven't used the latest version of the OS, so that might have changed, but in general all the non-Kindle E-Ink devices I've used, I've wished it were a Kindle without the spy stuff.
Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by fullstop on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @01:34PM (#28607450)
Out of curiosity, do you have ghosting problems with the Mars? You can also connect a kindle to USB and use the internal flash without ever connecting it to the internet.
Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by sneak on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @01:43PM (#28607541)
No more than any other eink? I haven't noticed anything in particular, but I haven't been looking for ghosting.

It works great for my purposes.

Re:Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite by Ekaros on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:46PM (#28609062)
It's reasonably priced pretty decent eink reader.