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Re:Groundbreaking arm amputation surgery makes a ‘phantom’ h... by GordonS on Saturday September 18, 2021 @12:45PM (#28577519)
> I read about an experiment where people were shown various black and white drawings over random grayish backgrounds. They then had to estimate the hue of the grayish background - which was tricking because it only has slight amount of red, or blue, etc)

I'm colour blind, and if a picture is in black and white, I can't always tell.

A long while back our CRT TV broke, and started displaying everything without colour - I had no idea until my wife pointed it out! It's like my mind just makes up what it doesn't see.

Another example that I always use is grass: if you showed me a cropped image of grass and I didn't know it was grass, I'll tell you "I don't know what colour it is, but I think it's either red, brown or green". But if you point to some grass, I'll always say "it's green!".

Re:Groundbreaking arm amputation surgery makes a ‘phantom’ h... by Timpy on Saturday September 18, 2021 @01:12PM (#28577707)
I'm curious about your experience, do you actually feel like you are seeing green, or do you just know that green is the correct answer?

We had a bunch of different candies on the table at game night and I gave my friend some M&Ms, he thought they came from a bag of mint flavored M&Ms. He said, "wow I never tried these before, they really taste like mint." We all did a double take, he definitely did not eat mint M&Ms, I don't really remember if we even had mint M&Ms at the table. I believe him when he says he says he tasted mint though, like his brain placeboed the mint into place.

Re:Groundbreaking arm amputation surgery makes a ‘phantom’ h... by GordonS on Saturday September 18, 2021 @03:47PM (#28578717)
With the TV, I actually feel like I'm seeing colours, even if I don't know exactly what they are.

With the grass example, I'm actually not entirely sure! I mean, I obviously know that green is the correct answer, but that knowledge kind of makes me feel like I'm seeing green.

But colour blindness is kind of weird, because for any given thing/colour it's never just "I don't know" - I can narrow it down to a few options, and usually one of them is the correct one; like for a desaturated green, I might think it's grey, green or pink.

Re:Groundbreaking arm amputation surgery makes a ‘phantom’ h... by Deestan on Saturday September 18, 2021 @04:07PM (#28578872)
I wonder if it is related to the gray/red strawberry effect https://www.illusionsindex.org/i/grey-strawberries
Re:Groundbreaking arm amputation surgery makes a ‘phantom’ h... by seba_dos1 on Sunday September 19, 2021 @04:20AM (#28582656)
I don't think so - the strawberry effect is clearly chromatic adaptation at play and works because of cyan tint of the rest of the image (even the article you linked says so). Remember the black-blue/white-gold dress photo? That's the same thing - here the lightning is obvious, but in case of that dress the lightning conditions were ambiguous enough to make different people see different colors.