Gimp 2.10.28 - Hackdot

Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by mistrial9 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @12:04PM (#28577229)

a clever friend once said it this way, while I was complaining about the GIMP interface. He said "Adobe spent years refining the small details of Photoshop, and GIMP must not copy PS, so therefore all the GIMP interface parts will feel terrible, by default"

of course this is humorous oversimplification, but I can't help but think of it every time I really, really need a general editor, open GIMP and immediately start cursing over ordinary thing.

source: I wrote the third color paint app for the Mac II thirty years ago while a contractor at Apple Inc.

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by RubyRidgeRandy on Saturday September 18, 2021 @12:37PM (#28577455)

Something that others might not be aware of - Gimp could be a lot better by now, but Adobe actually has patents on features that cannot be included into Gimp, including certain UI elements. So there is a limit on what Gimp can do, not because of competency, but because of legality.

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by luegen on Saturday September 18, 2021 @02:31PM (#28578248)

Is there by any chance a list of software patents that Adobe or other companies hold that GIMP cannot implement for this reason?

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by RubyRidgeRandy on Sunday September 19, 2021 @05:54PM (#28588291)

https://patents.justia.com/assignee/adobe-systems-inc

content aware stamp tool

METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR SELECTIVE SYNCHRONIZATION OF A DISPLAY LAYOUT

METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR GESTURE BASED COPYING OF ATTRIBUTES

METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR AN IMPROVED WORKFLOW FOR DIGITAL IMAGE EDITING

Construction of multimedia compositions

Methods and apparatus for selecting objects by state

Methods and apparatus for automatically grouping graphical constructs

Methods and apparatus for maintaining online preferences

Methods and apparatus for creating a quick canvas

System and method for identifying Bezier curves from a shape

Method and apparatus for applying locale behaviors to regions of a form

Preview window including a storage context view of one or more computer resources

Methods and apparatus for arranging graphical objects

Methods and apparatus to identify graphical elements

Methods and apparatus for three-dimensional isographic navigation

System for manipulating noise in digital images

Compound layers for composited image manipulation

Method of color selection for display and printing

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by prokoudine on Sunday September 19, 2021 @02:39AM (#28582196)

There is no such thing because patents have nothing to do with this.

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by TheRealNGenius on Sunday September 19, 2021 @05:02AM (#28582816)

Agree, Rubyridge is just flat-out wrong. Check out photo pea for example, UI is remarkably similar to photoshop

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by prokoudine on Sunday September 19, 2021 @02:39AM (#28582191)

> Something that others might not be aware of - Gimp could be a lot better by now, but Adobe actually has patents on features that cannot be included into Gimp, including certain UI elements.

It's an urban legend :)

Improving UX means we need

1) UX architects/designers — got none

2) developers to implement what UX people design — got too few

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by RubyRidgeRandy on Sunday September 19, 2021 @05:55PM (#28588299)

https://patents.justia.com/assignee/adobe-systems-inc content aware stamp tool

METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR SELECTIVE SYNCHRONIZATION OF A DISPLAY LAYOUT

METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR GESTURE BASED COPYING OF ATTRIBUTES

METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR AN IMPROVED WORKFLOW FOR DIGITAL IMAGE EDITING

Construction of multimedia compositions

Methods and apparatus for selecting objects by state

Methods and apparatus for automatically grouping graphical constructs

Methods and apparatus for maintaining online preferences

Methods and apparatus for creating a quick canvas

System and method for identifying Bezier curves from a shape

Method and apparatus for applying locale behaviors to regions of a form

Preview window including a storage context view of one or more computer resources

Methods and apparatus for arranging graphical objects

Methods and apparatus to identify graphical elements

Methods and apparatus for three-dimensional isographic navigation

System for manipulating noise in digital images

Compound layers for composited image manipulation

Method of color selection for display and printing

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by prokoudine on Monday September 20, 2021 @07:55AM (#28592787)

None of that is the reason for a missing feature. Some of those things are actually implemented in GIMP, at least, judging by titles.

Like I said, urban legend.

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by ryantgtg on Saturday September 18, 2021 @01:23PM (#28577779)

My clever take is that complaining about GIMP’s UI is just a meme at this point.

I could easily complain about Photoshop or Illustrator’s UI just as much as GIMP or Inkscape.

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by reginold on Saturday September 18, 2021 @08:49PM (#28580715)

Yeah I'm curious what exactly makes GIMP different. Photoshop and Pixelmator are bot pretty similar to use on a Mac. Is it just the layout of buttons? Or is there some "first principles" difference in the design of GIMP vs Photoshop? Is GIMP made for programmers and Photoshop for designers?

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by ryantgtg on Saturday September 18, 2021 @10:57PM (#28581311)

No, GIMP is for designers, too. I use Photoshop at work and GIMP at home. Both for very light work. Adding text to an image, putting a product into a mockup template, resizing, etc. Both programs are very similar - I don’t really notice much difference between them. And GIMP does some things better!

Like any program, there’s a learning curve. But there are lots of like-for-like features and layout choices between the two, so if you know one then the other is easy to adapt to.

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by p0nce on Saturday September 18, 2021 @01:28PM (#28577804)

Is it Stockhold syndrome? After years of GIMP I really disliked the Affinity interface, also it is unusably slow on a very recent computer here. I kinda like GIMP, the good parts.

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by klondike_klive on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:53PM (#28579690)

Is that an egg-corn? ie an mishearing of a well-known phrase in a way that makes total sense? Stockhold syndrome - it's like Stockholm syndrome but you're cheerleading for companies with crappy products only because you own stock.

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Re:Gimp 2.10.28 by mrj on Saturday September 18, 2021 @12:19PM (#28577320)

There's no limit on copying from PS, but it wouldn't make sense to trash the current user base to try to acquire those used to PS. Then it would be the Gimp users who feel upset.

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