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Re:Tim Cook Faces Surprising Employee Unrest at Apple by throwawaylinux on Saturday September 18, 2021 @12:39AM (#28573747)
> I’m going to assume that this is a serious question and try to quickly answer it in good faith.

It is a serious question and I was hoping for something closer to the late 1700s vintage. I'm well aware there is a vast welfare system in place today.

Re:Tim Cook Faces Surprising Employee Unrest at Apple by krrrh on Saturday September 18, 2021 @01:51AM (#28574015)
Sorry I misread thinking you meant since it’s founding (until now), when has it been a welfare state.

I was caught in a weak moment I guess.

Re:Tim Cook Faces Surprising Employee Unrest at Apple by samhwr on Saturday September 18, 2021 @12:28PM (#28577389)
I don’t quite understand your confusion - did you read his comment as “at any point since its founding [i.e. just not before 1776]”?
Re:Tim Cook Faces Surprising Employee Unrest at Apple by krrrh on Sunday September 19, 2021 @02:43PM (#28586793)
I basically read it as:

“Since it’s founding the US has never been a welfare state in any sense. Change my mind!”

Re:Tim Cook Faces Surprising Employee Unrest at Apple by samhwr on Sunday September 19, 2021 @02:59PM (#28586927)
> One must keep in mind that the United States is and near or more always has been a welfare state.

> If one must keep that in mind, may one ask what definition of "welfare state" has applied to the USA since its founding?

The contention was definitely whether it has been a welfare state ever since its founding. No judgement though - the English language is terribly poorly designed, so I can totally understand how you read it that way.