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Re:For the first time in history, St Andrews outranks Oxbridge by wanderingmind on Friday September 17, 2021 @06:36AM (#28563619)
Or even better is just not do a PhD. Doing a PhD is one of the worst things that most people do to themselves. It mainly exists to provide cheap labour to exploitive universities while creating a huge opportunity cost for students. And worse does not provide any employable skills to more than 9 out of 10 PhDs who need to find a job outside academia. If you are thinking of doing a PhD you are better off just doing a master's.

[1] https://medium.economist.com/why-doing-a-phd-is-often-a-wast...

Re:For the first time in history, St Andrews outranks Oxbridge by ThePhysicist on Friday September 17, 2021 @07:16AM (#28563987)
Some things are hard to do outside a PhD or research context. I knew my PhD probably wouldn't "pay off" financially but that wasn't the goal to begin with. It gave me the opportunity to do some great research and work with amazing people, so I'm really happy to have done it. I also did research as part of my Diploma (M.Sc.) thesis, but it's just not comparable to a PhD.
Re:For the first time in history, St Andrews outranks Oxbridge by avnigo on Friday September 17, 2021 @10:12AM (#28565698)
I agree, but like you said, PhDs are valued more in terms of career progression and prospects for those working in research and academia, and if you don't get on that PhD train, you just kinda stall.