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Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by WorldMaker on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:57AM (#28553426)
That sort of recipe blog hasn't happened just for SEO. It's also a bit of a "two audiences" problem: if you are coming to that food blogger from a search you certainly would prefer the recipe first and then maybe any commentary on it below if the recipe looks good. If you are a regular reader of that food blogger you are probably invested in the stories up top and that parasocial connection and the recipes themselves are sometimes incidental to why you are a regular reader.

You see some of that "two readers" divide sometimes even in classic cookbooks, where "celebrity" chefs of the day might spend much of a cookbook on a long rambling memoir. Admittedly such books were generally well indexed and had table of contents to jump right to the recipes or particular recipes, but the concept of "long personal ramble of what these recipes mean to me" is an old one in cookbooks too.

Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by inanutshellus on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:55PM (#28554197)
I see your point, but argue you've misidentified the two audiences.

One audience matches your description and is the invested reader. They want that blogger's story telling. they might make the recipe, but they're a dedicated reader.

The other audience is not the recipe-searcher, but instead Google. Food bloggers know that recipe-searchers are there to drop in, get an ingredient list, and move on. They won't even remember the blog's name. So the site isn't optimized for them. It's optimized for Google.

"Slow the parasitic recipe-searcher down. They're leeches, here for a freebie. Well they'll pay me in Google Rank time blocks."

Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by hdjjhhvvhga on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:24AM (#28574825)
> Food bloggers know that recipe-searchers are there to drop in, get an ingredient list, and move on.

This is not entirely true, though. If a randomly found recipe turns out particularly good, I'll bookmark the site and try out other dishes. It's a very practical method to find particularly good* recipe collections.

*) In this case "good" means what you need - not just subjectively "tasty", but e.g. low cost, quick to prepare, low calorie or in line with a particular diet and so on.

Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by inanutshellus on Monday September 20, 2021 @09:04AM (#28593347)
I'm aware of zero human-behavior-truisms that are "entirely true".
Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by giantrobot on Thursday September 16, 2021 @03:50PM (#28556550)
> If you are a regular reader of that food blogger

I think this assumes facts not in evidence. It certainly seems like an overwhelming number of "blogs" are not actual blogs but SEO content farms. There's no regular readers of such things because there's no actual authors, just someone that took a job on Fivver to spew out some SEO garbage. Old content gets reposted almost verbatim because new results better according to Google.

The only reason these "blogs" exist is to show ads and hopefully get someone's e-mail (and implied consent) for a marke....newsletter.

Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by WorldMaker on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:42PM (#28557282)
I know at least a few that I commonly see in top search results that I have friends that read them like personalized soap operas where most of the drama revolves around food and family and serving food to family.

It's at least half the business models of Food Network shows: aspirational kitchens and the people that live in them and also sometimes here's their recipes. (The other half being competitions, obviously.) I've got friends that could deliver entire doctoral theses on the Bon Appetit Test Kitchen (and its many YouTube shows and blogs) and the huge soap operatic drama of 2020's events where the entire brand milkshake ducked itself; falling into people's hearts as "feel good" entertainment early in 2020/the pandemic and then exploding very dramatically with revelations and betrayals that Fall.

Which isn't to say that there aren't garbage SEO farms out there in the food blogging space as well, but a lot of the big ones people commonly complain about seeing in google's results do have regular fans/audiences. (ETA: And many of the smaller blogs want to have regular fans/audiences. It's an active influencer/"content creator" space with relatively low barrier to entry that people love. Everyone's family loves food, it's a part of the human condition.)

Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by run-types on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:45PM (#28554068)
I've basically never been taken to a recipe without a rambling preamble from Google. While food blogs may serve two audiences, a long introduction seems to be a requirement to appear in the top Google search results.
Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by WorldMaker on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:52PM (#28554153)
Personally, I think that has a lot more to do with the fact that Google killed the Recipe Databases. There did used to be a few startups that tried to be Recipe Aggregators with advertising based business models, that would show recipes and then link to source blogs and/or cookbooks, and in the brief period where they existed Google scraped them entirely and showed entire recipes on search results and ate their ad revenue out from under them.
Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by dspillett on Friday September 17, 2021 @05:40AM (#28563167)
Such databases would get battered by demands to remove content these days, if not already back then. No one want a database listing their stuff for ad revenue like that because many wouldn't follow the links so see their adverts or be subject to their tracking.

A couple of browser add-ons specifically geared around trimming recipe pages down have been taken down due to similar complaints.

Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by tomrod on Thursday September 16, 2021 @01:02PM (#28554282)
That is a really bad thing by Google. Their core business is not recipes.
Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by kwertyoowiyop on Thursday September 16, 2021 @01:58PM (#28554931)
Their core business is making money from other people’s content, no matter what it is.
Re:A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes... by WorldMaker on Thursday September 16, 2021 @02:14PM (#28555139)
Their core business is advertising and they have always been in a direct conflict-of-interest by competing with content sites for ad revenue buys.