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Re:GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other... by lelanthran on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:19AM (#28549606)
> It seems to me that being harder to put off but occurring less frequently, and most importantly not exploding (leaving significant amount of time for occupants to get out, if they are able) is a pretty good trade off.

It's very rare to get a gas tank to explode (as others have pointed out). You need to have very little fuel (or better, none at all) in the tank before a spark will cause explosions.

Take a 2l plastic soda bottle, fill it 90% full with petrol and (with tongs from a distance) drop in a lit cigarette. I've tried to get the bottle to go bang multiple times and it never happens - the ciggarette is extinguished every single time.

Then empty that bottle until there is less than 5ml of petrol in it, close the bottle and shake it up to get a rich mixture, and then repeat the experiment (I've gotten fairly big bangs every single time, this way).

The TLDR of it all is that there is danger of explosion when the tank is emptied, not when it is full, because the fumes cause explosions, not the liquid state of the fuel (which just catches fire).

Re:GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other... by ineedasername on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:41PM (#28554010)
Yes, as I understand it, the fuel vapors give a relatively minor boom that disperses the rest of the gasoline enough to become essentially the second stage. Not that it takes long enough to really discern two stages: aerosolized gasoline will go up fast.
Re:GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other... by mellavora on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:44AM (#28551690)
How long would you suggest those tongs should be, to ensure a safe distance? For the ones that go bang.
Re:GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other... by lelanthran on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:15AM (#28552101)
> How long would you suggest those tongs should be, to ensure a safe distance? For the ones that go bang.

I'm hesitant to answer in case some tries this and gets hurt.

I used a flexible claw (one like this: https://www.amazon.com/Flexible-Claw-Automotive-Mechanic-Gen...) inserted into a standard copper pipe (used for taps and other plumbing) to stiffen the spring and held it at arms length.

So, about 2m was safe for me. I also suggest wearing protection for your ears as these are really loud bangs, and protection for your eyes as well (it is an explosion, after all).

Re:GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other... by ineedasername on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:42PM (#28554021)
I think, given the HN community, the appropriate answer is "build a robot to do it for you"