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Re:Silicon Valley stirs over proposal to end popular QSBS ta... by onlyrealcuzzo on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @09:56PM (#28534273)
This is a common myth.

If .2% of earners REPORT INCOME greater than $x, they paid tax on that!

We get the percentiles straight from the IRS data.

There's this idea that people report they made $100 MM to the IRS, but are like, "Well, I only want to pay tax on $300k of that." And the IRS is like, "Sure."

You wouldn't be in the top .2% if you only reported incomes of $300k to the IRS. You'd barely be in the top 2%.

Re:Silicon Valley stirs over proposal to end popular QSBS ta... by ch4s3 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:48PM (#28534642)
That’s not what I’m claiming. It’s pretty clear from public records that no one was really paying those rates. The people it may have hypothetically applied to probably didn’t take all of their earnings as taxable income and found ways to avoid paying the top rate. The real rate collected under the 90% regime in the 50s on the top 0.01% of income earners was 55%, not terribly higher than today.

Taxable income is highly elastic as taxes and income increase. See Emmanuel Saez’s paper here [1]. (Conclusion on page 60) it’s a good overview of the inefficiency of high marginal rates.

It’s nice to believe we could just scoop up the wealth of the wealthiest in society and make good use of the money, but it becomes very hard to collect in a hurry in the real world. Most OECD nations with generous social benefits fund them with VAT and taxes on middle income earners. They’ve all abandoned things like wealth taxes and soaring marginal rates for practical reasons.

[1] https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w15012/w150...

Re:Silicon Valley stirs over proposal to end popular QSBS ta... by dragonwriter on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:51PM (#28534669)
> The real rate collected under the 90% regime in the 50s on the top 0.01% of income earners was 55%, not terribly higher than today.

Its a time and a half the top marginal nominal rate, which is significantly above the real rate collected on the top 0.01%.

So, yeah, its much higher.

Re:Silicon Valley stirs over proposal to end popular QSBS ta... by ch4s3 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @12:09PM (#28540867)
It’s higher but not nearly as high as people expect and didn’t raise a larger percentage of GDP in tax revenue.