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Re:The Frustration with Productivity Culture by PragmaticPulp on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @09:21PM (#28533972)
> Ive switched markets/verticals from gov to private to startups in search of this balance.

Am I understanding correctly that you switched to startups to find better work/life balance?

I have to say I'm surprised by that. Usually startups have the highest demands and the fewest people to get things done. Can you expand on your experience?

Re:The Frustration with Productivity Culture by dasil003 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:54PM (#28534689)
There are a lot more variety of startups than there are big companies. If you're thinking of late-stage VC-driven companies who work hard to maintain the label of "startup" to perpetrate the mythology of rocket-ship riches that their ivy league hiring funnel relies on, then yeah, it's gonna be stressful. On the other hand, if you're willing to take less money for the ability to work with tighter constraints, less resources and more creativity then it's not too hard to find a company willing to accommodate you, especially if your talent level is validated by a big tech name brand on your resume (not saying it's the best signal, but hiring manager psychology is what it is).
Re:The Frustration with Productivity Culture by d3nj4l on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:02PM (#28534749)
> especially if your talent level is validated by a big tech name brand on your resume

This is unironically the best way to find a good WLB while working on interesting problems. I switched from a startup with great WLB to a big tech with worse WLB because I recognised that the brand name on my resume will open me up for more interesting work with better WLB later on. It sucks for me now, but I'm hoping it'll pay off soon enough.

Re:The Frustration with Productivity Culture by iamstupidsimple on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @05:40AM (#28537099)
There are plenty of big tech companies with good WLB. Not everywhere is Amazon.
Re:The Frustration with Productivity Culture by d3nj4l on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:00PM (#28534734)
That's a sort of outdated view on startups IME. Unless you're talking about the FAANG types (which, IMO, shouldn't be called startups anymore) I've found that many small startups are embracing a healthy work-life balance. I switched from a small startup working on an early-stage SaaS to a mature big tech company and my wlb got worse.

I think the reason is that small startups can't always compete on salaries, so they have to make up for it by giving you something else in return. The market is full of extremely talented people leaving big tech because they're unhappy with the wlb, or want full-time remote or so on, so it turns out to be a win-win for startups and engineers. Big Tech will continue to get meat for the grinder by their sheer reputation, so they can expect you to dedicate your life to them if you want to stay.

Re:The Frustration with Productivity Culture by thow-58d4e8b on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @02:27AM (#28535891)
It's a different kind of stress, and some people prefer one over another.

I experienced both a megacorp and one-man-army setups, and I find fighting bureaucratic inertia, office politics, endless stream of status updates, ever-changing organization chart and product rebrands - all way more tiring than shipping out features at frantic pace.

Re:The Frustration with Productivity Culture by mikro2nd on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @07:53AM (#28537908)
There are more ways of doing startups than dreamed of in Silicon Valley, my friend.