The key for workman's comp was no-fault--you pay for your own accidents. That had to be enshrined in law to work.
Several US states HAD No-Fault insurance laws--ie your own insurance company pays for your own accidents.
The insurance companies lobbied like crazy to get those removed. They're all gone now.
If you got those No-Fault insurance laws back, the required systems thinking would ensue.
Re:How factories were made safe
by TheCoelacanth on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:06PM
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Wouldn't it be more analogous to if the state or the Department of Transportation paid for all accidents since they are the ones controlling the system? Insurance companies don't have any power to change road designs or traffic laws.
Pennsylvania at least has no-fault auto insurance.
It used to. The auto lobby got rid of it. Did it come back at some point?
Google tells me it does; I checked before posting my original comment. Can you find anything that says otherwise?
PA is apparently kind of weird:
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/pennsylvania-no-faul...
Also, "No Fault" doesn't cover vehicle damage. Apparently, this is what I was remembering. It changed when I lived in Pennsylvania (that was quite a while ago).
Re:How factories were made safe
by trangus_1985 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @05:58PM
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One start would be to disable smartphones from operating when linked to a car system, massively increase enforcement of smartphone use while driving, and increase penalties.
None of that would be popular, but it would be effective.
That would create temporary disruption, but how would it have any long term benefit, once cars started having navigation as an option again?
Re:How factories were made safe
by trangus_1985 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @01:42AM
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Navigation isn't the issue, it's people texting.
If navigation isn't the issue, why can't people use Android Auto/CarPlay? I don't think they allow texting.
Re:How factories were made safe
by trangus_1985 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @07:02PM
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Ah, sorry, I guess my op wasnt clear, but that was my intent
Re:How factories were made safe
by hhhhdnxndn on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @08:51PM
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Let police agencies access cell phone location history and fine anyone moving above the speed limit on a road.
Force cell phones to stop working when velocity is above 5 mph.
Not all cell phones being used in cars are used by drivers. I wouldn’t want my cell phone disabled in an Uber, or to get a ticket because my uber driver was speeding.
We managed to make factories safe but kill 1.3 M people/year in traffic instead [1]
I wonder: will we ever manage to apply systems thinking in traffic as well?
[1] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/road-traffi...