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Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by nradov on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @05:23PM (#28531502)
Safety is not a binary condition. The vaccines have a good safety profile as confirmed through large-scale clinical trials, and have met stringent FDA criteria. However the risk isn't zero. The CDC has acknowledged a small risk of myocarditis for the mRNA vaccines.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/my...

This isn't generally a reason to avoid vaccination for most of the population, however the risk / benefit ratio may be different for some sub-populations. In particular there has been a higher than expected rate of adverse cardiac events for adolescent males.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v...

So particularly for those adolescents who have already recovered from infection and have no other risk factors we should have a scientific discussion about whether vaccination makes sense from an evidence-based medicine perspective. Unfortunately the issue has been so politicized that any suggestion of caution often gets misinterpreted as being anti-vaccination.

Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by mike00632 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @12:10AM (#28535188)
More people will die waiting unvaxxed for their antibody results than will die from vaccine side effects. Please use real numbers when you talk about vaccine side effects.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by nradov on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @12:17AM (#28535226)
The real numbers are in the links I posted above, as well as this CDC presentation.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/ad...

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Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by nradov on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @12:57AM (#28535416)
What a bizarre, deranged accusation. The CDC is hardly anti-vaxx. Rather the opposite
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by mike00632 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @01:00AM (#28535428)
The CDC isn't making the claim that the vaccines kill people. You are.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by nradov on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @01:03AM (#28535441)
Stop lying. I made no such claim.