Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by mchusma on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:09PM
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"cancellation" has been more of a left wing attack in universities. Maybe if the right wing starts doing it too, everyone will realize they need to stop.
They observe the term means different things to different people, and as other people have pointed out here, that the loosely defined behavior ascribed to 'cancel culture' has been around for a very long time. They have a whole episode around the "Dixie Chicks" or as an example from further back perhaps arguably the McCarthyist Red Scare.
Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by macg333 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @01:21PM
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This isn't a partisan issue. Individuals have been "cancelled" for as long as individuals who hold power disagree with individuals who hold less power (collective or individual).
Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by klyrs on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:28PM
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The United States was founded on identity politics. Should we roll it all back? Are we "all" better off if women, non-white, Italian, Irish, Polish, non-land-owners, etc. aren't allowed equal rights and a vote?
Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by helloworld11 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:15PM
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So now cancellation is a major, newsworthy problem for the Intercept, because it was attempted by nefarious conservatives though. Not so much of an issue when it's being done by the woke, their allies and anyone who finances hard "progressive" organizations. Cute. (to clarify, it's a problem regardless of who does it and has been one for much longer than the duration of the modern culture wars, but the digital age has made it so much more rapid-fire, and in either case, this OP reeks of hypocrisy).
Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by klyrs on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:28PM
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Here on HN: cancellation by the left is widely panned every time. Cancellation by the right... is also an excuse to rail against the evil left again. Cute, indeed.
Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by starkd on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:27PM
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So, the professor investigates this group that is asking him to be an advisor. He finds,
"Among current and former leaders of YAF chapters across the country, he learned, were declared white supremacists, believers in the QAnon conspiracy theory, and supporters of the Ku Klux Klan and the Proud Boys. Some were involved with neo-Nazi activist Richard Spencer. And at least one had participated in the assault on the U.S. Capitol"
This seems to be more of a caricature than an honest summary of a group's mission. The KKK and the Proud Boys are nowhere in the same category. It's like the term Neo-Nazi was just thrown in for effect. It seems this journalist is just furthering his agenda than revealing any truth. He obfuscates more than reveals.
Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by klyrs on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:54PM
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That isn't a description of the group's mission, it's a characterization of leadership in chapters that he researched. If they weren't getting involved with Richard Spencer and if Richard Spencer wasn't a neo-nazi, then maybe you'd be right that the term was thrown in for effect. But a quick search shows that Spencer was invited to speak at U.Buffalo by YAF chapter leaders there.
Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by mimikatz on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:51AM
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Lame attacks used by both sides. It is a template
Billionaires (Koch or Soros) attacking using organization (anecdotes about worst members worst actions, communists beating up a journalist, Nazi's beating up a journalist) tied to activity (riots/attempted coup)... blah blah blah
Re:A Billionaire-Funded Website Is Trying to “Cancel” Univer...
by haskellandchill on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:23AM
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Looks like conservatives are using effectively using money and technology to organize politically, nothing wrong with that. The fact that their ambitions are limited to harassment is the flaw.
On the other hand, this game of cancellation is something universities have been happily playing.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1270-youre-wrong-about-497649...
They observe the term means different things to different people, and as other people have pointed out here, that the loosely defined behavior ascribed to 'cancel culture' has been around for a very long time. They have a whole episode around the "Dixie Chicks" or as an example from further back perhaps arguably the McCarthyist Red Scare.
we are all better off if no one practices it
on the other hand, there is a big advantage to defecting and doing so early
if those who defect are not punished in some other way, everyone eventually defects
oh well
"Among current and former leaders of YAF chapters across the country, he learned, were declared white supremacists, believers in the QAnon conspiracy theory, and supporters of the Ku Klux Klan and the Proud Boys. Some were involved with neo-Nazi activist Richard Spencer. And at least one had participated in the assault on the U.S. Capitol"
This seems to be more of a caricature than an honest summary of a group's mission. The KKK and the Proud Boys are nowhere in the same category. It's like the term Neo-Nazi was just thrown in for effect. It seems this journalist is just furthering his agenda than revealing any truth. He obfuscates more than reveals.
Billionaires (Koch or Soros) attacking using organization (anecdotes about worst members worst actions, communists beating up a journalist, Nazi's beating up a journalist) tied to activity (riots/attempted coup)... blah blah blah